[Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] A successful request not yet fulfilled (was Language Prevention Committee created)

Luiz Augusto lugusto at gmail.com
Sun Apr 1 19:34:35 UTC 2007

Thanks for the answers, Pathoschild and GerardM. I know that the process to
*request* to create a new Wikisource (and to request the creation of a new
Wikinews or a new Wikiversity) have theirs particularities. But unfortunately
I'm unable to found any documentation/policy page that explains if the
langcom need to do a final word on these requests or not. Now I have five
answers to this:

* The http://langcom.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page saying "a clear
step-by-step policy (based on quantitative indicators) for evaluating the
feasibility of new language wikis, with an automated procedure for project
development;" (with no distinctions between projects)
* The http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy saying
"The proposal is to open a new language edition of an existing Wikimedia
project that does not already exist (see the complete list of Wikimedia
projects)" (with no distinctions between projects)
* GerardM ignoring my specific question and doing a [[Ad nauseam]], followed
by some [[Ad nauseam]] answers criticizing theirs statments (my Gmail trash
is unfortunately queasy with a large amount of [[Ad nauseam]]s)
* A (nice) on-topic reply made by Pathoschild with their POV pointing
to a paragraph
originally writen by me [1] based on the Wikisource Multilingual wiki policy

* The Wikisource creation policy itself.

Please langcom members, discuss internaly and release to the public if their
committee need to do a final word on requestions for creation for new
Wikisource/Wikinews/Wikiversity wikis or if theirs policy requirements to
prevent a new wiki going to be created with 0 active users and 0 pages is
sufficient to make a bugzilla request. And please someone write a few lines
to be cuted-and-pasted at wikisource.org/wiki/ explaing about the possibles
reasons for the delays on the creation for new Wikisources wikis.

And please, related to the Tamil Wikisource specific situation: why this
don't have yet a wiki? Technical problems? Just no one with free time to set
this wiki up? Just others than me with the same questions related to the
"final word"? No sufficient pages at [[:oldwikisource:]] "incubator"? (if
the problem is the last one, the most recent Wikisource, mk.wikisource, has
been created with only the "Main page" at the "incubator" and now have 308
"articles" apart the last edit on that wiki is from 27 February from this

Please keep on topic on replies. Please. Please.

[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_new_languages&diff=prev&oldid=527531
, based on a previous

On 4/1/07, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) <pathoschild at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> The process on the multilingual Wikisource domain is not covered by
> the language subcommittee yet; you'll notice that there is a redundant
> process at < http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/RFL#Wikisource>. The
> secondary processes will eventually be merged into the Meta process
> (probably a combination of both, not simply removing one), but we want
> to make sure that the latter is working at a reasonable efficiency
> first. As your sarcasm indicates you already know, we've had some
> difficulty starting up.
> I would suggest continuing to follow the Wikisource process, since the
> request is there. This process is the same as it was on Meta until the
> reform: file a bug request following community approval, and it might
> be done eventually. I'm sorry that we can't do anything more at the
> moment, but we're busy catching up on requests (for many projects,
> *not* only Wikipedias) that were filed through the subcommittee
> process in the transitional period.
> Yours cordially,
> Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
> (This message is not an official statement of the language subcommittee.)
> > From: "Luiz Augusto" <lugusto at gmail.com>
> > Hi
> >
> > There is a successful and old request for opening a new wiki not yet
> > fulfilled. Language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
> > whatever/anything else, please forgive the MessagexXX.php paranoia and
> see
> > requests for non-Wikipedias wikis a while.
> >
> > # [[:oldwikisource:]] have a [[Wikisource:Language domain requests]]
> page.
> > # This page have at least one successful request for a new Wikisource
> wiki:
> > Tamil Wikisource (ta.wikisource)
> > ## This have a large community support:
> >
> http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Language_domain_requests&oldid=215092#Domain_requests_.28ta.wikisource.org.29
> > ## This have "incubator" pages:
> http://wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Tamil
> > ## This have a bugzilla request:
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6982
> > ## The MessagesTa.php is avaiable at MediaWiki SVN repository
> > ## There is someone interested on editing in this non-existing exactly
> now:
> >
> http://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A-jkb-&diff=215093&oldid=214978
> > ## I've asked about it on the langcom wiki yesterday but no one
> > apparentlyhave read it.
> >
> > And, if the language prevention/creation committee/subcommittee or
> > whatever/anything else isn't happy to increase the current amount of
> > Wikimedia wikis, I found a good solution: open the ta.wikisource and
> close
> > the ang.wikisource. No, no one have deleted the MessagesAng.php from
> > subversion, this apparently has never created, but you can find a vote
> to
> > close that wiki with large community support at:
> >
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Old_English_Wikisource
> >
> > Best regards
> > [[:m:User:555]]
> >
> --
> Yours cordially,
> Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
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