[Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Wmfcc-l] Citizendium, a new venture, will "fork" off from online encyclopedia Wikipedia]

[Gerard Meijssen]

Anthere wrote:
> Mathias Schindler wrote:
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>> On 9/16/06, Florence Devouard <anthere at wikimedia.org> wrote:
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>>> WASHINGTON INTERNET DAILY
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>> Hi Anthere.
>>
>> What you did was violating the copyright in most of the states (anyone
>> shouting "fair use! fair use!" here?).
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>
> Oh ?
>
> You mean that's why much of the interesting discussions are right now 
> taking place on the comcom list where very little people have access ?
>
> Okay. I'll forward them to internal instead.
>
>   Foundation-l gets archived
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>> publicly, as far as I know. You are responsible for this incident and
>> I would like you to
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>> 1. remove this message from the archive before the owner of the
>> copyright DMCAs you, me and the Foundation.
>> 2. try not to repeat this.
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> Right. You know where I live, if it is necessary, just tell them I am 
> the guilty one. They can sue me, I own so little they won't make much :-)
>
>   
>> As a board member, respecting copyright of third parties should not be
>> an optional skill :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mathias
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>
> I think my role as a board member is increasingly becoming extremely 
> boring and useless... I oscillate between being told to be a nice 
> girly/pompom girl. And being a watch dog crying wolf. I look forward for 
> someone else holding this roles with me.
Hoi,
I hope there will be a video. I hope it will be for me to see :) .. 
Think about this fairy tale about this girly with a red riding hood.. 
She may have been eaten by the wolf but it was the wolf that ended up 
down in the well with a belly full of stones.

A board member of a foundation has a responsibility to perform his/her 
role When people are stupid enough to suggest a board member to be a 
"girly/pompom girl", they do not understand the role and responsibility 
of a board member and as sadly their own role. I would expect that much 
of these "suggestions" happen because of a lack of communication and 
miscommunication. From a community point of view, the observation that 
one community board member leaves prematurely and another community 
board member tells us that she is suggested to be a "girly/pompom girl" 
makes me feel really upset about the current state of the Wikimedia 
Foundation.

The suggestion that there is a lot of miscommunication is the 
friendliest way of saying "who the fuck do you think you are" to the 
people making such suggestions. A board member cannot be a watch dog 
calling wolf. It is to a board member to ensure that the necessary 
action is taken when wolfs are spotted. It is up to the organisation and 
it's personnel to ensure that the board members are properly informed 
and that appropriate and agreed upon measures are taken to keep the 
wolves at bay. In this it is the organisation and it's personnel that 
need board approval not the other way round.

Thanks,
    GerardM