[Foundation-l] Hi, Jimmy Wales, Is there inspectors to investigate admins?

[GerardM]

Hoi,
Admins are not controlled on the Dutch Wikipedia. At best there is room for
censuring them. Control means that the community enforces behaviour of
admins. When people insist that people do things in a certain way, they have
to appreciate that admins are volunteers. When this urge of control becomes
too much people can and do decide not to be an admin anymore and
consequently all the control the community thought it had is lost.

There is little that cannot be done without having the "buttons" that are
essentially everything that an admin has over a non-admin. When an admin
goes overboard and starts to BAN people for no obvious reason, the admin has
lost his control and is likely to get censured. When a community is
fractured to the extend where opinion is divided in power blocks, we have a
situation where it is questionable to what extend the objectives of having a
WMF project are still primary. This is the situation in several projects
where the main issues are political and/or the dogmatic imposition of rules
that have little to do with the aim of the project.

Thanks,
     GerardM

On 9/10/06, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If your question can be shortened to "are the admins controlled" the
> answer is YES! To be exact, by the comunity. The community can appoint
> and send away admins, and can control them.
>
> further there is at the dutch wikipedia (and we are somehow weird,
> fyi) a community reprepresentative that has access to the
> sysop-mailinglist and could shout alarm if the admins were plotting
> something bad. Afaik he has never had to use his access to shout
> alarm, although he reads almost everything on-list.
>
>
> @domas: I started earlier, here: "In Japanese Wikipedia all admins
> seemes to be anti-Japanese cruel Korean fascists." ;-)
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2006/9/10, Peter Rocky7 <freudianjungianp at hotmail.com>:
> > Greetings
> >
> > I am [[User:Rocky7]].
> >
> > Is there inspectors to investigate the behaviors of all admins in
> English
> > Wikipedia?
> >
> > In Japanese Wikipedia there is no inspectors to investigate whether the
> > behaviors of admins are right or not, so almost Japanese Wikipedians
> cannot
> > trust admins at all. And it seems very clear that admins abuse
> sockpuppets
> > terribly unfairly. They have been blocking superior Wikipedians one
> after
> > another. They would have done out of jealousy, inferiority complex,
> and/or
> > anti-Japanese hate.
> >
> > In Japanese Wikipedia all admins seemes to be anti-Japanese cruel Korean
> > fascists. They cannot be Japanese characteristically. It is the fact
> that in
> > Korea anti-Japanese cruel Korean fascists have been oppressing
> pro-Japanese
> > people since 2000.
> >
> > Japanese are peaceful and generous, but Koreans are aggressive and sly
> (at
> > least since 1945).
> >
> > Why have the server of Japanese Wikipedia been set on Korea? Very heavy
> and
> > terribly unfair!
> >
> > Who have left the adminships of Japanese Wikipedia to sly anti-Japanese
> > Koreans who pretend to be Japanese?
> >
> > The relation between Japanese and Koreans is the same as that between
> > Israeli Jews and (Palestinian) Arabs.
> >
> > Is there the board of inspectors to investigate the behaviours of all
> admins
> > in English Wikipedia?
> > If not, please create it. Now!
> > As far as admin's vandalism abusing ordinary Wikipedians is left, it is
> > extremely obvious that there is no use preventing anons from creating
> new
> > pages.  The prank like that of [[Siegenthaler Sr]] cannot be settled
> unless
> > admins be re-elected and trusted.
> >
> > As long as general Wikipedians cannot respect admins, it's the worst
> method
> > to set a limit to releasing the newest version of the article. I don't
> know
> > why the admins of Deutche Wikipedia can take such a silly
> countermeasure.
> >
> > After all, The Problem of Wikipedia is evidently the Problem of Admins.
> >
> > Do you understand?
> >
> > I hope that there would be wise admins here who can think and act
> logically
> > and help build the ideal of Jimmy Wales.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Rocky7
> >
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