[Foundation-l] Verifiability: Constitution? Question for Jimbo!

Christoph Seydl Christoph.Seydl at students.jku.at
Wed Sep 20 00:04:02 UTC 2006


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Avete!

Ray Saintonge wrote:
>> in a similar vain, research has indicated that commercial 
>> healthcare result in a higher death rate but as this is not a fact that 
>> is acceptable this fact is ignored.
>>
> The death rate everywhere is neither more nor less than 100%. :-)

That depends on how you define death rate. If it's about death per
treatment, 100% is quite a lot. In this case, I would suggest a
reference to solve this imperfect assertion. ;-)

>> Constructive criticism.. I would love a definition for that.. is that 
>> not the criticism that says "you are on the right track but see the way 
>> of your errors" .. basically replacing one POV with another ..
>>
> Not really.  It presents alternative points of view.  It recognizes what 
> is right in the article, and suggests alternatives that might improve 
> the article.  Insisting that the original writer has erred is not 
> constructive.

There are different ideological beliefs in Wikipedia. We have
inclusionists, delusionists, exclusionists, eventualists,
immediatists,... Hence, constructive criticism is often hard without any
general guideline. There are good reasons for eventualism, but also for
immediatism. Such discussions are usually time-consuming and the
arguments are always the same.

Valete! Chris
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