[Foundation-l] Report from Frankfurt - October 2006
oscar.wiki at gmail.com
Fri Oct 27 12:49:43 UTC 2006
you may not be aware of this, but my report is designed to be the first in a
series of updates, designed for quick delivery and some comprehensive
information about the retreat, details will of course follow, but not just
by me. this takes time, people!!
whatever may have happened to the "assume good faith": a critical look is
always appreciated, but i feel like maybe next time i shouldn't sacrifice
yet another night's sleep again, there seem to be implicit expectations in
view of the reactions? there are however no solutions "out of a box"; it is
a step by step process, please bear with it.
On 10/26/06, Erik Zachte <erikzachte at infodisiac.com> wrote:
> Tomasz "Polimerek" Ganicz
> > Does it mean you have produced some sort of document with your
> > recommendations to the Board? If yes, I think, this document, even if
> > very long, would be much more interesting to read, than all the above
> > general, abstract statements wich in fact says nothing...
> Oscar thank you for what you did, but in my view you did not earn your
> to complain yet. I also would have expected a more in depth coverage of
> a crucial meeting. To name one thing specifically: what was the outcome of
> the SWOT analysis? I'm sure you all did not do that hard work without
> notes? You might include the SWOT outcome unedited, that saves time.
> > I will spare you all the details
> Who are you sparing here? Might that not be yourself in the first place ;)
> I'm sure many readers of this list would not mind an extra page or two. If
> you can't spare the time maybe split up the work after all. It is not our
> fault that the organiser of this event forgot to rent the Big Brother
> for 3*24 hrs multichannel coverage ;)
> Also I find it rather odd to present a list of priorities, where again as
> you say you all put so much effort in, in alphabetical order. It does not
> help to give us a sense of what was going on.
> In August the board decided they needed a retreat among other things to
> build better relations. Expensive but hey we need a board to be on good
> terms which each other. Now this retreat grew into Wikimania 2006 part II,
> it seems.
> > so let me here express the often heard plea for a next follow-up
> a next step,
> building on this first one.
> Several times in past years the topic of a wikicouncil was raised
> (originally by Jimbo). Ironically it seems to me that we now almost got an
> impromptu wikicouncil, without difficult discussions about size, roles and
> representativity. Like with the board itself I fear this 'retreat' might
> transform into something noone had foretold. Of course wikis are all about
> being bold, yet I learned how this principle can backfire and I reserve
> right to express my doubts.
> Erik Zachte
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