[Foundation-l] Porchesia

[Birgitte SB]

--- David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 02/10/06, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > So en.WP has many, many of "their" volunteers.
> > Manpower that is unbelievable to the wider
> Wikimedia
> > community.  But now, and this just not about
> > Porchesia, when en.WP has a problem.  When en.WP
> has
> > this problem it is brought straight to this list
> to
> > ask the attention and help of this wider Wikimedia
> > community.  Now any other project, tries their
> hardest
> > to solve a problem themselves before coming here. 
> But
> > en.WP with their massive resources and manpower.
> > en.WP skips the step of working on the problem
> within
> > the project and comes straight here to use the
> > resources of the wider Wikimedia community.  And
> the
> > wider Wikimedia community is supposed to work on
> this
> > with the hope there might be some carryover to
> their
> > own home project.  Still when the home project has
> a
> > problem, they are not given answers and solutions.
>  I
> > was told to "adjust my expectations to reality". 
> Many
> > others are told that they must figure it out
> "within
> > the community".  But no one except en.WP comes
> here
> > until they exhausted the ability of thier home
> > community.  I am just asking that en.WP approach
> this
> > list as every other project in the wider Wikimedia
> > community does.
> 
> 
> You speak as if Danny's message going here was
> anything to do with
> some implied collective laziness on the part of
> en:wp as an amorphous
> mass, rather than entirely Danny's own personal
> decision. Me, I'm
> somewhat surprised he didn't send it to wikien-l at
> all.
> 
> 
> - d.

I speak as if it is part of a pattern, this thread had
been a prime example of the pattern when I first
commented.  I think this is sign of how much all the
political stuff has consumed us, that so many people
can only see this thread as an attack on Danny,
instead of an honest disscussion on an issue.  I don't
know.  I suppose all the board elections talk had me
into believing many people were sincerely interested
in en.WP dominance issues.  I suppose that was really
all just politics.  I will say no more on this issue,
and instead simply remain silent on threads I believe
belong elsewere.  I am truly sorry for causing all the
drama here, I misread the situation.

Birgitte SB

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