[Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Principles of organisation - who do we serve?

[Birgitte SB]

Is it 90%?  I haven't seen anyone actually define what
the problem is on foundation-l at least.  Is it images
with no info, or false info?   Or is just that the new
users aren't using Commons category system unrelated
to copyright?  I tried to read the Commons-l archive
to catch up, but I am still unclear on what scope of
the problem is.  Does anyone actually have numbers?  

Without really knowing the situation, I would say that
I believe all communities struggle to keep up on these
things.  Everyone has backlogs they are working
through and these things happen in cycles.  One month
you make great progress, another month things are
overwhelming and ground is lost.  Perhaps threatening
drastic action is a good way to draw attention and
hopefully solutions when the situation gets
particularly bad.  However I think it would really be
useful to talk about the real numbers in this
situation. How much worse is it than what others are
dealing with?

Birgitte SB

--- Brad Patrick <bradp.wmf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Or, the es.wp users are all not aware of the
> restrictions on what is
> acceptable. Your earlier post appeared to support
> the es.wp position.
> This is a problem that should be handled at the
> source, not creating
> better tools to fix what should not be happening in
> the first place.
> If, say, 90% of the material being uploaded is
> against the grain, why
> should we not try to fix the problem at the source? 
> We are clearly
> not doing a good enough job explaning what is okay
> and what is not if
> this kind of situation has evolved.
> 
> On 11/14/06, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 14/11/06, Brad Patrick <bradp.wmf at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Commons exists to be a repository for free
> culture *and* to serve as
> > > an inter-wiki storage medium for *free* media. 
> it is not a place to
> > > dump stuff, nor is it a place which exists
> independently of other
> > > wikis.
> > > Copyright violations are not a minor or trivial
> problem.  They are a
> > > serious problem, for which we are obligated to
> act when they are
> > > properly brought to our attention.  This is all
> nothing new.
> > > If there are Wikimedians who are advocating
> housing copyrighted media
> > > in Commons, speak up now, because we need to get
> clear on why that is
> > > not cool immediately.
> >
> >
> > There isn't anyone advocating that; this
> discussion started with a
> > Commons admin threatening to block all es:wp users
> from Commons to
> > stop copyvios from es:wp, because the Commons
> admins can't keep up,
> > evidently because their admin process is strict
> enough that pretty
> > much no-one even bothers trying.
> >
> >
> > - d.
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