[Foundation-l] Sexual harassment in Wikipedia
Jimmy Wales
jwales at wikia.com
Fri Nov 10 04:32:30 UTC 2006
Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Titoxd at Wikimedia wrote:
>
>> I'm not entirely sure that a random user of an online site qualifies as an
>> employee of any site, so I don't think that *workplace* sexual harassment
>> laws have anything to do with this case. After all the commotion lately with
>> MySpace, it seems quite real that these situations do have some sort of
>> legal backing under some sort of sexual harassment statute, although IANAL.
>> In many of these cases, it is just safer to report the case, and if the
>> police asks for anything, just provide them access to the Apache and Recent
>> Changes logs.
>>
> Providing this data should only be done in response to a court order.
> Mere police investigation is not enough. There are many more situations
> where a person has legitimate reasons for remaining anonymous. This
> might seem like very obvious circumstances for providing information,
> but there are other activities where we diverge significantly about the
> legality of the activity, and it is not our place to start making
> judgements about legality. Civil rights and free speech are important,
> and if it means having to tolerate occasional idiotic speech that's a
> very small price to pay.
In some cases I would agree, but when there is a clear threat of
physical violence (rape), that's a simple boundary line for me.
Two examples: (1) a vandal posts "Principal Skinner is a poopy head", we
do not notify the school or authorities, because it is just a stupid
childish comment and who cares. (2) a vandal posts a physical threat of
violence against Principal Skinner... we forward it to the school and/or
appropriate authorities, and cough up the ip address if we have it and
there is a police request.
Is the second also just a stupid childish comment? Yes, in many cases,
but I am personally not comfortable making that judgment. Tolerating
the occassional idiotic speech really is a small price to pay, as you
say. Tolerating threats of violence is just a bad idea.
--Jimbo
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