[Foundation-l] Rodovid.org, family tree wiki, wishes to become a wiki project

[Benjamin Webb]

I understand what you mean, but due to the size of many GEDCOMs, it will be
easier to automate some merging, until we have a sufficient userbase to do
otherwise.

Just to fill you in. What happens with GEDCOM at the moment, is that if
there is a similar person already in the wiki to one in the GEDCOM, then the
importer recieves a message asking him what he want to do. (If this doesn't
make sense, try importing a file yourself.) If you have any problems with
the GEDCOM system, it may be due to the fact that the system, and infact the
whole site is still under development.

Benjamin Webb

On 23/03/06, Patrick, Brad <bpatrick at fowlerwhite.com> wrote:
>
> To the Rodovid.org team:
>
> I would really hope that the people who look into this don't ever
> automate such a process.  One of the most compelling problems for even
> life long genealogists, much less newbies, is taking a fork in the road
> without knowing they missed the real turn a ways back.  Proof, sourcing,
> etc. of a common ancestor, much less linking two extended genealogies
> and really "advancing" a family history, should be worked out wiki-style
> on a talk page of each ancestor before there is a "merge"; such an
> instance may seem simple in the case of same birthdate, wives, children,
> etc., but genealogy is a field where things are very often not as they
> appear.
>
> I applaud the effort to move this forward; my critique is certainly
> meant as constructive.  The fundamental point of migration to such
> systems is that quality is the only credential making the system worth
> using.  If people upload a database of 1,000 unsourced ancestors, and
> expect a program to automatically match them to what already exists, it
> will be a failure.
>
> -Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:57 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Rodovid.org, family tree wiki,wishes to
> become a wiki project
>
> I'm glad you like it. As for similarity, when importing GEDCOMs, a
> similar record warning appear, but this doesn't happen normally. I think
> if you are doing it manually you are supposed to search for similar
> records yourself.
> Perhaps I could ask Baya, the site's creator, about the possiblity of a
> similarity warning when editing manually. (I am posting to the list
> rather than him because his English is not terribly good).
>
> What do you think about the possibility of it becoming a Wikimedia
> project?
>
> Benjamin Webb
>
> On 23/03/06, Brian <brian0918 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is probably one of the better genealogy wikis I've seen,
> > particularly because it supports GEDCOM import, which saves quite a
> > bit of time. My main problem is how the software can help people
> > figure out that two separate users' family trees are connected at some
>
> > point; some sort of similarity-ranking system needs to be created (if
> > it hasn't
> > already) which would instruct users to merge pages that have more than
>
> > N items in common (name, date of birth, location, marriage, children,
> etc).
> >
> > brian0918
> >
> >
> > Benjamin Webb wrote:
> >
> > >I have not yet recived any real reply about this project. I would
> > >like to hear from someone whether it could actually become a
> > >wikimedia project,
> > and
> > >what would need to happen before it could. Any comments would be
> > apreciated.
> > >
> > >Benjamin Webb (User:Bjwebb on wikipedia, meta, commons, wikibooks,
> > rodovid
> > >and wikitree)
> > >
> > >P.S. It has a meta page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rodovid.org
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