[Foundation-l] Etiquette, Civility

[Cormac Lawler]

On 3/20/06, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at ctelco.net> wrote:
> We expect the users who are involved in a matter to maintain civil
> communication with one another. Like you, I would be at a loss to
> point to specific language. If someone is touchy about their talk
> page, use the talk page of the article or other matter you are
> concerned with.
>
> Fred


Yup. Well, for reasons I won't go into, I think the talk page from
whence the matter came is just as sensitive for the person in
question, so I've asked to move to my talk page instead. Like I said,
this user is quite new, so I'm just simply trying to encourage
conversation. And lest anyone go off and do their homework trying to
find out who this person is, let me say that it really doesn't matter
- for now at least. I'm just trying to get opinions and ideas here for
the moment.

Cormac

>
> On Mar 20, 2006, at 2:00 AM, Cormac Lawler wrote:
>
> > Hi all, as the title suggests, I'm writing about etiquette.
> > Specifically, whether it's ok to delete  valid questions or comments
> > from a talk page (in the particular case I'm talking about, deleting a
> > question from their own user talk page).
> >
> > Personally, I think this is highly uncivil. "Sorry, I am just going to
> > ignore you, no, in fact, I am going to pretend you never asked the
> > question in the first place" (without even the "courtesy" of saying
> > this). However, there is scant mention of this in policy or guideline
> > pages (admittedly, I've only looked at English Wikipedia and
> > Wikibooks). Why?
> >
> > Is it not considered rude to ignore someone? Is refusing to answer
> > questions not an ominous sign in a collaborative environment? (Ok,
> > when someone has just asked their umpteenth ignorant question, it
> > might be understandable, but this was my first contact with the
> > person.)
> >
> > For what it's worth, the only mention I found was on either project's
> > policy pages was on [[w:en:Wikipedia:Etiquette]], which says "don't
> > ignore questions". Etiquette isn't even a policy or guideline on
> > Wikibooks - I'm addressing that at the moment.
> >
> > So, has anyone else had a similar thought or frustration? And while
> > I'm asking about this, I'll also ask: what's the difference between
> > Etiquette and Civility? As far as I can define it (in Wikimedia
> > terms), etiquette is about specific instances of niceness or rudeness,
> > whereas civility is about a whole attitude, comprised of etiquette, no
> > personal attacks etc. Or what do you think?
> >
> > Cormac
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