[Foundation-l] Proposal for Wikipedia in European Portuguese

James Hare messedrocker at gmail.com
Tue Jul 4 07:22:27 UTC 2006


I'll be right back, I have to now file an audit for every piece of knowledge
in my brain to see if it's not lodged in 1959.

On 7/4/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> What "we" call Chinese is no longer considered a language..
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=zho
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> James Hare wrote:
> > O RLY?
> >
> > I thought they were dialects of Chinese.
> >
> > On 7/4/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hoi,
> >> Cantonese and Mandarin are BOTH languages according to ISO-639-3.
> >> Thanks,
> >>     GerardM
> >>
> >>
> >> James Hare wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, dialect forks are just a waste of space, bandwidth and time,
> unless
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> dialects vary greatly (such as Cantonese and Mandarin).
> >>>
> >>> On 7/3/06, Robert Scott Horning <robert_horning at netzero.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> James Hare wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The only reason why I can see two different Portuguese wikis is
> >>>>>
> >> because
> >>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> two (majority) versions -- European Portuguese and Brazillian
> >>>>>
> >> Portuguese
> >>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> are very different. Are they?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/2/06, Luiz Augusto <lugusto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry for my English. Recently, a newbie from Portuguese Wikipedia
> >>>>>>
> >> has
> >>
> >>>>>> proposed on meta a vote to create Wikipedia in european portuguese.
> >>>>>>
> >> He
> >>
> >>>>>> don't
> >>>>>> talked about it with any editor from pt:Wikipedia and that proposal
> >>>>>>
> >> has
> >>
> >>>>>> discovered by me, accidentally. I send a note in Village Pump from
> >>>>>> pt:wikipedia. More than 30 editors has voted against that proposal.
> >>>>>> Unconsoled with this, he was suspended that voting and is imposing
> >>>>>>
> >> to,
> >>
> >>>> in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> new vote about it, only europeans speakers can vote on it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is all ok to the current rules for request a new language?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> As a fluent portuguese speaker, I have no idea why a vote of this
> >>>>
> >> nature
> >>
> >>>> must be restricted to only those who come from a certain country or
> >>>> continent.  I am, however, opposed to this idea, as well as the
> earlier
> >>>> Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia proposal that also failed.  To me this
> >>>> sounds like somebody trying to establish rules that would make his
> pet
> >>>> project work, when there is strong opposition to the idea.  I'll put
> >>>> more of my thoughts on the new language poll page to keep down
> >>>>
> >> bandwidth.
> >>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Robert Scott Horning
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