[Foundation-l] Re: [Wikipedia-l] Desysopping procedure against waerth

[Daniel Mayer]

This is truly sad. I think we need Jimbo to declare that NL will have an arbcom to get things
going. I would recommend that he appoint you as its first member. De-sysop indeed. Things must be
very bad on nl if somebody I trust as much as I trust you gets desysoped there. 

Maybe you should tell them that I and the board trust you so much that you have read access to the
foundation PayPal account and can edit the foundation wiki. You have never abused those rights and
are still very much so trusted. 

Everybody on every wiki needs to know that rules *only* exist to serve our goal of creating and
distributing the best encyclopedia in the world. They should *never* be used as weapons against
people you happen to not like for whatever reason and they certainly do *not* exist for their own
sake. That is in fact what the ignore all rules policy is all about. 

-- mav


--- Walter van Kalken <walter at vankalken.net> wrote:

> A desysopping procedure against me has started on nl:
> 
> A brilliant timing btw my sysopstatus will be taken away on my birthday. 
> As I have said before. If I get desysopped something breaks in me. As I 
> have always done a lot for the community. It is ironic that on nl: the 
> trolls can stay, as they do not even get blocked! And the one who is 
> constantly trying to keep things going looses his modstatus.
> 
> I have tried after a year of discussing to finally get a blockpolicy 
> going on nl: that allows blocks for more than 24 hours. 7 proposals have 
> been made by 7 users. But no what do they want on nl: they want to 
> discuss things further. Meanwhile trolls feast on nl: and multiple users 
> have left already. Also an arbcom has been discussed for over a year. 
> And everytime someone has a proposal they discuss further and further 
> and further. NL: has become a discussionforum in which proposals are 
> discussed, but never ever implemented. I tried to further it by warning 
> people on their userpages that wikipedia is not a discussionforum. They 
> responded with a desysoppingprocedure here: 
> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Afzetting_moderators
> 
> This is the worst birthday gift after over 2 years of hard work. I 
> defended nl.wikipedia a number of times over the radio as a 
> presscontact. everyone said I had done a good job. I now feel stupid 
> sorry for doing  such a good job. This community doesn't deserve people 
> who are willing to work hard.
> 
> Waerth/Walter
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