[Foundation-l] Re: [Juriwiki-l] Re: Copyright complaints

David Newton davidp.newton at gmail.com
Sun Feb 12 09:42:09 UTC 2006


Angela wrote:

>Can you please point out where Wikisource agreed to allow CC-BY-NC-ND
>text? I don't recall any mention of it on any of the mailing lists I'm
>on. It really shouldn't be news to anyone using Wikisource that all
>Foundation projects require freely licensed text.

As I said in my previous message I saw that there was an ambiguity in
the Wikisource copyright page back in November. See here:

http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-November/005050.html

I tried to get a definitive statement, of the type that you just made,
out of people on this very mailing list. I also posted things on the
Scriptorium at Wikisource to get input there. The result was more
confusion. I then got interested parties to chat in IRC (those
interested parties that were actually interested enough at the time to
respond) to see what should be done about this. The copyright page of
the main Wikisource domain was altered with a note making it clear
that this was a trial. Nothing was said about it for a month and so
the page that was referred to earlier in this thread was altered.

It wasn't exactly like this alteration was made in secret and it
wasn't exactly like this alteration was made without trying to get the
opinion of the Foundation on the matter. After all that's precisely
why I posted about it on this very mailing list!

I suggest that you be the one to make the policy clear on Wikisource.
I also suggest that you be the one to tag the hundreds of UN
resolution copyvios on there for deletion. If this is to be the
confirmed policy I will remove work that I have done on starting to
put some British legislation online, which is under Crown copyright
and hence incompatible with the GFDL. Prepare for a storm of protest,
particularly about the UN resolutions (although I happen to agree that
they are copyvios in that case).

If Wikisource is not to be a repository of works that are freely
reproducable, but not compatible with the terms of the GFDL then I
think starting something on Wikicities would be in order. I originally
intended to use the Wiki format to create copies of the original
legislation online and then create amended copies of them as they
appeared at various points. Since the promised British Government
statute law database is currently mired in developmental purgatory
that seemed a very useful thing to do and perfect for Wikisource.

Good luck in implementing (properly this time) the copyright policy of
the Foundation. You'll need it given the number of those willing to
wilfully violate copyright on Wikisource.

David Newton



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