[Juriwiki-l] Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright complaints

Thu Feb 9 18:09:32 UTC 2006

Hoi Brad,
I appreciate that everything that gets uploaded is not by virtue of it 
being uploaded to a wikimedia project GFDL licensed material. Now the 
crux to me is that when it is not, it is in essence in violation of the 
terms of the GFDL license. If this is correct, the consequence would be 
that material that is not available under the GFDL should not be 
included in a WMF project. Am I correct on this one ?

One other question, why do you single out the en.wp to take action on 
copyvio? What is it that makes this project special ? Would this advise 
not be as appropriate for any project and any language ?

Thanks,
   GerardM

Patrick, Brad wrote:
> Not everything that is on Wikipedia is by virtue of it simply being
> there, magically transformed into GFDL, as you indicate.  That is the
> essential problem, and the fallacy (some) users erroneously believe.  So
> long as there are uploads, there will be copyvio.  It must be dealt with
> accordingly. 
>
> To editors on en.wp in particular, don't hesitate to take action on
> copyvio.  It is better to err on the side of caution and aggressively
> delete.  The license problem is as much an educational problem as an
> actual systemic copyvio problem.
>
> -Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: juriwiki-l-bounces at wikimedia.org
> [mailto:juriwiki-l-bounces at wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:03 PM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Cc: juriwiki-l at mail.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Juriwiki-l] Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright complaints
>
> Hoi,
> The great thing of juriwiki-l is that it is in essence a big black hole.
>
> Things get in there and it is not seen that something comes out. When it
> comes to issues with licenses and issues to do with the implementation
> of the rules many projects *choose* how to implement them. This results
> in content that is inconsistent with the GFDL. This in turn results in
> people telling organisations that use Wikipedia content that they cannot
> use the content as is.
>
> In my opinion, and I am not a lawyer, the license of the Wikimedia
> project (GFDL) states that everything that is included in the projects
> needs to be available under this license. When people license things
> under a license that is more Free, that is fine, but it needs to allow
> for GFDL publication.
>
> My question to the nice people that are also on the juriwiki-l am I
> correct in what I just said.
>
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> Patrick, Brad wrote:
>   
>> You would be mistaken to conclude that the Foundation does not regard 
>> copyvio as significant.  Rather, your choice of venue for discussion, 
>> i.e., Foundation-L, is not the most productive.  Juriwiki-L is the 
>> place where hot copyvio action may be found more readily.
>>
>> Please contact me offline to discuss particulars.
>>
>> -Brad
>>
>> Bradford A. Patrick, Esq.
>> Fowler White Boggs Banker
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>> bpatrick at fowlerwhite.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: foundation-l-bounces at wikimedia.org
>> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Bruning
>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 11:34 AM
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Copyright complaints
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 06:12:04PM +0100, Kim Bruning wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> This is important for wikipolitical reasons on en.wikipedia. If I 
>>> lose, my right honerable opposition shall likely successfully 
>>> endeavour to severely reduce copyright checks on the english
>>>     
>>>       
>> wikipedia.
>>
>> The lack of response is deafening! :-P
>>
>> I guess I was mistaken. :-( I take it that copyright issues and 
>> incorrect use of fair use provisions are NOT a concern for the 
>> foundation at this moment in time?
>>
>> Due to the fact that copyright and fairuse checking is seen as 
>> disruptive on en.wikipedia, I suppose that priority must then be given
>>     
>
>   
>> to the community. I shall concede this point to my opposition, and 
>> request for copyright checks on en.wikipedia to be curtailed.
>>
>> sincerely,
>> 	Kim Bruning
>>   
>>     
>
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