[Foundation-l] Introducing a new mailing list

Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax at gmail.com
Thu Dec 7 02:43:24 UTC 2006

The Cunctator wrote:
> In 12/6/06, rfrangi at libero.it <rfrangi at libero.it> wrote:
>>> Michael Snow wrote:
>>> Traditional list etiquette encourages that approach, yes, although
>>> really I think the odds have more to do with how the message is crafted
>>> than with whether it is delivered publicly or privately. Here it was a
>>> difficult balancing act. It is evident that at least some people do not
>>> see much of a problem, perhaps not surprising since bias and
>>> discrimination often operate in subtle and systemic ways. As a result,
>>> it is sometimes necessary to publicly call out examples.
>>> However, Snowdog is a valuable part of the community and has a good
>>> reputation, so I wasn't happy to be so critical. I did try to "play the
>>> ball, not the man" (sexist idiom, but the right gender in this case) by
>>> focusing on the comment itself and what was offensive about it. I am
>>> thankful that he continues to participate, with good grace and in a
>>> constructive fashion. A "botched joke" may cost John Kerry the chance to
>>> run for President again, but it shouldn't cost anyone the chance to post
>>> again to this list.
>>> --Michael Snow
>> Well, it was clear to me, from the beginning, that the issue of the thread
>> was gender bias and sexist remarks. So basically my "sexist joke" was a
>> field test (I'm not so stupid to make such comments in a place where those
>> comments are in discussion).
>> Working primarily on the italian Wikipedia, and since this issue has
>> started on en.wiki (on which I do not follow the ongoing discussions), I
>> wanted to realize quickly, and maybe brutally, how this kind of things are
>> felt. So thanks Michael for your public reply, and you all forgive me if I
>> used you as Guinea-pigs.
> Wait, you were being *deliberately* inflammatory?

I suspect that, like my infamous post to wikien-l that started this
whole mess, he didn't think that anybody would take him seriously.

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