[Foundation-l] Celebrity pictures

[Ray Saintonge]

Anthony wrote:

>On 8/27/06, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
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>>Garion96 wrote:
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>>>I think, but I might be wrong, that something coming from the foundation
>>>would lead to better results.
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>>Please define the demarcation between what should be foundation policy,
>>and what policy should be in the hands of any given project.  Except for
>>absolutely essential policies, most of it should be in the hands of the
>>projects, and one needs to accept that any two projects can have
>>different policies, including ones relating to fair use.
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>Unless and until the individual projects have an organized legal
>structure, face to face dealings really have no other choice but to be
>handled by the foundation.
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>You asked about policies, which isn't really what I thought this
>thread was about, but I'd consider the freeness of the content to be
>one of the "absolutely essential policies".
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Celebrity pictures are really only a subset of the broader issue of 
images, and that has let to the even broader question of the division 
between Board and project policy.  That being said your points make 
perfect sense despite the fact that we may still have differences about 
what "freeness" means.

>>>I just now and then get discouraged when I see the fair use images mess on
>>>en.wikipedia. I do like it that we can use fair use though but it seem to
>>>be used too easily. If some good responses come from this, it would diminish
>>>a bit the excessive fair use there.
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>>So what's wrong with having fair use images, as long as they really are
>>fair use images.
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>"Fair use images" which aren't free can't be reused by everyone.
>That's what's wrong with them.
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Has anybody so much as investigated industry standards about the use of 
album covers or the publicity shots of celebrities?  The entertainment 
industry if infamous for protecting what it believes to be its 
copyrights.  Have there been any cases regarding this kind of material?  
What can we do to free this borderline material?

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