[Foundation-l] Honorarium (was Re: [Found>, > This conversation had jumped back and forth ....)
Daniel Mayer
maveric149 at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 12 17:43:59 UTC 2006
- Previous message: [Foundation-l] [Found>, > This conversation had jumped back and forth from single-instance expenses , > (eg. babysitting costs) to much larger issues such as speakers fees. With the , > number of speaking requests pouring in to the Foundation (and they come in at , > an ever increasing rate), I want to suggest the following guidelines for board , > members and others giving talks about the Foundation. Much of this is based , > on my belief that it is possible to say no to speaker requests too. We are , > big enough to set the terms by which we offer to send speakers, and the , > benefits of participating in various conferences etc. should be weighed against the , > real needs and interests of the Foundation. My proposal is as follows., > , > 1. Requests for speakers from the Foundation will be approved by a , > subcommittee of the Communications Committee to be known as the "Speakers , > Subcommittee."., > 2. The Speakers Subcommittee will determine whether and how fulfilling the , > request furthers the goals of the Foundation. This will be called Speaker , > Objectives., > 3. The Speakers Subcommittee will then determine whether the Speaker , > Objectives are equal or greater to the costs involved in sending a speaker to the , > event., > , > 4. The Speaker Subcommittee will then determine which representative of the , > WMF is best suited to deliver the talk, based on considerations of language, , > geography, skills, conference needs, availability, etc., >, > 5. Basic costs for speakers will include , > a. transportation, > b. per diem (hotel, food), > c. ancillary (babysitting, formal wear such as renting a tux, other), > 6. The Speaker Subcommittee will negotiate with the requesting organization , > to ensure that they cover as much of these costs as possible. Should the event , > be deemed worthwhile, but the requesting organization is unable to cover , > these basic costs, the Speakers Committee will de termine a budget for the , > speaker to participate., > 7. The Speaker Subcommittee will also request an honorarium, to be paid to , > the Foundation, for providing a speaker., > 8. A calendar of speaking engagements and speakers will be maintained in a , > public space, such as wikimediafoundation.org. , > 9. Only speakers approved and appointed by the Speakers Subcommittee will be , > entitled to speak on behalf of the Foundation in such public forums and to , > make use of Foundation property such as logos, registered tm's, etc. in their , > presentations., > 10. Upon completing their speaking engagement, speakers will provide a , > written report to the Speakers Subcommittee in which they describe whether and how , > the Speaker Objectives were met., > 11. The written report will include a summary of the talk, major questions , > asked, and a copy of handouts, PowerPoint presentations, etc. as necessary., > 12. These materials will be made easily available to other speakers so as to , > enhance their own presentations., > 13. Upon completing their speaking engagement, speakers will also submit any , > receipts for *approved* expenses., > 14. Upon submission of receipts, the written report, and ancillary , > materials--and only upon their submission--the speaker will be reimbursed for any , > out-of-pocket expenses., > , > While this may seem bureaucratic to some, I believe that it is a common , > sense approach to dealing with the growing influx of requests for speakers that , > the Foundation is facing. It will help us to avoid what Mr. Merkey wisely , > called "poaching speaking engagements, " and ensure that previous experiences as a , > speaker are shared with others., > , > Rather than dwell upon what happened in the past, let's move forward by , > improving this initial proposal and submitting it to the Board for vote., > , > Danny, > , > , > _______________________________________________, > foundation-l mailing list , > foundation-l at wikimedia.org, > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l, >ation-l] board, babysitting, speaking engagements, etc.
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--- Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> I have for a very long time now stressed to everyone who invites me to
> speak that they are inviting me in my personal capacity. So this
> policy will have no impact on me. But it could have impact on many others.
You, above all other members of the board and officers, have the very real capacity to generate
significant revenue for the foundation to help us further our charitable mission. Your fame is
wholly the result of your founding and guiding of Wikipedia. People would not ask you to speak if
it were not for that. Thus it seems perfectly reasonable to me, and in fact most ethical, for any
honorarium you receive for speaking about Wikipedia/Wikimedia to go to the foundation. In fact, I
would love to use your fame as a significant fundraising mechanism - $200 per plate dinners and
such.
> However, it could significantly impact our desire to bring more people
> to the public eye. For a volunteer to prepare a talk, travel to do it,
> a typical honorarium will be still be pretty poor compensation for the
> time away from family, work, etc.
That is what vacation time is for. :) I gladly use that all the time for Wikimedia-related
activities, including speaking about Wikipedia/Wikimedia. That is part of volunteering for
something that is truly changing the world for the better. What I don't want, is for a culture of
getting paid to speak to interfere with our good work here. I think that people should speak about
Wikipedia and Wikimedia because they love it and want to share that with others. Any money paid
for that above actual expenses should go to the foundation. It just seems cleaner that way to me;
leaving no questions at all over motivations.
But let's not dwell on what was done before (we are all new to this and feeling around in the
dark); we should instead look to the future. And a bright one is before us. That is why I endorse
Danny's proposed policy on this.
-- mav
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- Previous message: [Foundation-l] [Found>, > This conversation had jumped back and forth from single-instance expenses , > (eg. babysitting costs) to much larger issues such as speakers fees. With the , > number of speaking requests pouring in to the Foundation (and they come in at , > an ever increasing rate), I want to suggest the following guidelines for board , > members and others giving talks about the Foundation. Much of this is based , > on my belief that it is possible to say no to speaker requests too. We are , > big enough to set the terms by which we offer to send speakers, and the , > benefits of participating in various conferences etc. should be weighed against the , > real needs and interests of the Foundation. My proposal is as follows., > , > 1. Requests for speakers from the Foundation will be approved by a , > subcommittee of the Communications Committee to be known as the "Speakers , > Subcommittee."., > 2. The Speakers Subcommittee will determine whether and how fulfilling the , > request furthers the goals of the Foundation. This will be called Speaker , > Objectives., > 3. The Speakers Subcommittee will then determine whether the Speaker , > Objectives are equal or greater to the costs involved in sending a speaker to the , > event., > , > 4. The Speaker Subcommittee will then determine which representative of the , > WMF is best suited to deliver the talk, based on considerations of language, , > geography, skills, conference needs, availability, etc., >, > 5. Basic costs for speakers will include , > a. transportation, > b. per diem (hotel, food), > c. ancillary (babysitting, formal wear such as renting a tux, other), > 6. The Speaker Subcommittee will negotiate with the requesting organization , > to ensure that they cover as much of these costs as possible. Should the event , > be deemed worthwhile, but the requesting organization is unable to cover , > these basic costs, the Speakers Committee will de termine a budget for the , > speaker to participate., > 7. The Speaker Subcommittee will also request an honorarium, to be paid to , > the Foundation, for providing a speaker., > 8. A calendar of speaking engagements and speakers will be maintained in a , > public space, such as wikimediafoundation.org. , > 9. Only speakers approved and appointed by the Speakers Subcommittee will be , > entitled to speak on behalf of the Foundation in such public forums and to , > make use of Foundation property such as logos, registered tm's, etc. in their , > presentations., > 10. Upon completing their speaking engagement, speakers will provide a , > written report to the Speakers Subcommittee in which they describe whether and how , > the Speaker Objectives were met., > 11. The written report will include a summary of the talk, major questions , > asked, and a copy of handouts, PowerPoint presentations, etc. as necessary., > 12. These materials will be made easily available to other speakers so as to , > enhance their own presentations., > 13. Upon completing their speaking engagement, speakers will also submit any , > receipts for *approved* expenses., > 14. Upon submission of receipts, the written report, and ancillary , > materials--and only upon their submission--the speaker will be reimbursed for any , > out-of-pocket expenses., > , > While this may seem bureaucratic to some, I believe that it is a common , > sense approach to dealing with the growing influx of requests for speakers that , > the Foundation is facing. It will help us to avoid what Mr. Merkey wisely , > called "poaching speaking engagements, " and ensure that previous experiences as a , > speaker are shared with others., > , > Rather than dwell upon what happened in the past, let's move forward by , > improving this initial proposal and submitting it to the Board for vote., > , > Danny, > , > , > _______________________________________________, > foundation-l mailing list , > foundation-l at wikimedia.org, > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l, >ation-l] board, babysitting, speaking engagements, etc.
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