[Foundation-l] Re: Swedish, Spanish, French Wikinews set up

[Anthere]

Erik Moeller a écrit:
> notafish schrieb:
> 
>> I have answered to you in private on these matters. This leaves open
>> my question about admins on wikinews. What are the *rules* ?
>>  
>>
> Fr.Wikinews.Org should create a Wikinews:Administrators nomination 
> process. If a consensus can be found that a user should be an admin, a 
> steward can make them one. Normally, stewards pick a trusted user to be 
> a temporary bureaucrat, so that the wiki can create its own sysops.

No, this is not how things proceed, this is not the rules we set, and I 
recommand that we do not go along this way.

Normally, stewards do what the community wants them to do.
Anyone willing to be a sysop should set up a voting page, and if there 
is no opposition, the guy can ask a steward to change his status.

It is not the steward business to decide who should be sysop.
And the steward should normally ask that an admin page be set and that 
the guy put his name and wait a little while.

What often happen in case of new projects in a well represented language 
(for example fr.wikiquote.org) is that the person asking for a status 
will set the page, and ask the wikipedia editors (fr.wikipedia.org) to 
go and support him over there.

I think this is fine.

It also happens that the project started in a new one in this language 
(for example yy.wikipedia.org... ). In this case, no one can really 
vote. In this case, the community is so small (often less than 5...), 
that we make the guy sysop without any votes of course.
This happens only on very very very very small wikis.

So.... Either the wikinews is viable, with a big community (supposingly 
at least 5), and that means at least 5 people are here to vote.
Or the wikinews has less than 5 people available to vote, and in this 
case, according to policy, it should never has been opened.

In short, if a wikinews is NOT able to gather at least 5 people to vote 
on such an issue as an admin setting, then it should be plain closed.


  That
> temporary bureaucratship is reviewed when the wiki has a stable user 
> base. For administrative needs that need to be completed ASAP, temporary 
> sysops can also be made, again by bureaucrats or stewards who know and 
> trust the user in question (e.g. Greudin).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Erik


In case of recent wikinews being set up, if the editors base is not at 
least 5 involved editors, then the wikinews should be closed.

If you can not gather 5 names to vote on an easy point as admin 
election, then there is no chance that wiki can go through all its 
building process.