[Foundation-l] Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation : le ver dans le fruit ?

[Daniel Mayer]

--- Traroth <traroth at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Traroth"

Machine translated text:

I posted the following text:  "Wikimedia   
Foundation:  the worm in the fruit?  At the   
time of the constituent assembly of   
association Wikimedia France, it was known   
as that Jimmy Wales and Wikimedia   
Foundation refused the right to him to use   
the marks which she held (Wikimedia,   
Wikipedia, Wktionary, Wikibooks...) if   
Foundation did not have a right of veto   
(the term made debate) on the decisions   
that would take the French foundation.    
Parrallèlement, during the creation of   
Wikimedia Foundation, Jimmy Wales imposed 3   
seats out of 5, by reserving the seat of   
president, the 2 seats remaining being   
provided by election (what led to 4   
anglophone members out of 5).  This   
sipositif was not to be renewed, and a   
really democratic election was to take   
place this year (it is what had been known   
as at the time).  One learns now that Jimmy   
Wales intends to continue with reserver the   
seat of president, with probably a right of   
veto on the decisions.  Less democratic,   
that appears difficult.  The one year shift   
was thus only one means of drowning fish.    
These manners of making push to be posed a   
certain number of questions:  *  For what   
are used these foundations?  *  Don't the   
givers have a right of glance on the use   
which is made money that they gave?  *    
Isn't this to mislead people to only make   
believe that a foundation takes care of the   
interêts of Wikipedia, whereas it is only   
about one organization-tail, without real   
capacity of decision?  *  Is this step to   
mislead people only to give appearances of   
the democracy, without being to it less   
world?  *  What will make the community if   
Jimmy Wales makes decisions opposite with   
the opinion of the majority, as it could be   
that that is the case on the subject of   
publicity (Jimbo never decided clearly   
against)?  To answer "Y has that to make a   
fork", it is to slap the givers in full   
face.  We hear well:  I do not have   
anything against Jimbo, and I would have   
been the first to be voted for him in 2004,   
and this, as a long time as there would   
have been ready to remain president.  That   
would have been only one formality.  Today,   
I would be more circumspect.  Of what it is   
afraid exactly?  Certain(e)s answered:    
that Board which would precisely make   
decisions opposite with the will of the   
majority.  In addition to the fact that it   
is in complete contradiction with the   
concept even of democracy, the current   
system does not put to us with the shelter.    
Simply, this "privilege" is reserved to   
only one person.  Personally, I intended to   
rather strongly imply me in the activity of   
French association, but now, I am with two   
fingers all to send pêter.  That would be   
already done if Wikipédia and the other   
projects were not in GFDL, which wants to   
say that they do not belong to Foundation.    
Without hostility, I would like to work   
with a collective?uvre, and not with a   
species of monument to the glory of Jimmy   
Wales, whatever his merits.   

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