[Foundation-l] First Past the Post

Daniel Mayer maveric149 at yahoo.com
Wed May 12 02:20:51 UTC 2004


--- hcheney <hdcheney at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am extremely concerned about the use of the
> plurality first past the post system. Generally, such
> systems encourage the establishment of two opposing
> sides and the use of tactical voting, which is not in
> the spirit of Wikipedian consensus building.

I hate first past the post too. In fact one of the reasons I haven't decided to
run yet was to not divide the vote between me and a few other like-minded
people and thus ensure we give the election to somebody else. 
 
> Considering the large number of well respected
> candidates running, the vote will probably be narrowly
> divided, and a small dedicated group of users or
> sockpuppets could usurp this election.

I don't think that is what we should be most concerned about ; the more likely
outcome is electing somebody a small minority of people honestly voted for
while three or four people who were had similar stands on a set of issues
collectively got over 70%. Thus the *issues* that those candidates wanted to
address don't get addressed even though there was a great deal of support for
the group of candidates that expressed them. Plurality elections totally suck!
The bastard cure for them is to have two opposing political parties and have
each party select just one candidate to run. But I think that polarizing
Wikimedia between two camps is the last thing we want to do. 

> I very strongly urge an adoption of Instant Runoff
> Voting-Single Transferable Vote (similar to the method
> used to elect the President of Ireland). Unlike First
> Past the Post, IRV-STV will eliminate candidates that
> lack a clear mandate and will favor consensus building
> candidates.

We should have a vote on what method to vote by. But then what method do we use
for that vote? :)

-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)


	
		
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