[Engineering] How we count uniques

[Nuria Ruiz]

>Since the blog specifically called out not making our users log in, and so
not being able to count "users", are we looking how many logged in users
access our sites each >month (whether they make an edit or not), and
average number of devices per user account?
As Madhu mentioned this data will require us to instrument login code as
logeed in/out info is not availble via webrequest logs.  Shouldn't be hard
to do.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Madhumitha Viswanathan <
mviswanathan at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Thanks Ori, Anna and Chris :)
>
> Since the blog specifically called out not making our users log in, and so
>> not being able to count "users", are we looking how many logged in users
>> access our sites each month (whether they make an edit or not), and average
>> number of devices per user account?
>
>
> The webrequest logs are unaware of whether or not users are logged in. So
> I don't think we can get that number from any of the analytics data - as
> far as I know. As far as average number of devices per user account - Since
> we don't really track who the user is in our logs, and only have ips, user
> agents, and access-methods - I assume we could draw rough estimates but
> they would be highly inaccurate.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chris Steipp <csteipp at wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Kudos to the Analytics and Research team for doing that!
>>
>> Since the blog specifically called out not making our users log in, and
>> so not being able to count "users", are we looking how many logged in users
>> access our sites each month (whether they make an edit or not), and average
>> number of devices per user account?
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Anna Stillwell <astillwell at wikimedia.org
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Very cool. Novel solutions that work well and are in line with our
>>> values are cool.
>>>
>>> Congratulations to everyone involved.
>>>
>>> /a
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Ori Livneh <ori at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Madhu, Nuria, and Aaron from the Analytics and Research teams have
>>>> written a blog post on how we are able to measure the reach of the projects
>>>> without tracking users. The technique we use is novel, as far as I know,
>>>> and it has already allowed us to quantify and understand the shift from
>>>> desktop to mobile better than we could before. So I want to congratulate
>>>> the three authors and the rest of the analytics team, as well as encourage
>>>> you to read the post, since it makes for very interesting reading. :)
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/03/30/unique-devices-dataset/
>>>>
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