[Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

Sarah Stierch sarah at sarahstierch.com
Tue May 17 15:24:33 UTC 2011

I've never denied not being a Diva ;-)


On 5/17/2011 9:26 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> --- On *Tue, 17/5/11, Craig Franklin /<craig at halo-17.net>/*wrote:
>     From: Craig Franklin <craig at halo-17.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on
>     Wikimedia Commons
>     To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List"
>     <commons-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>     Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 12:54
>     I'm going to add my voice to the "yeah, that wasn't cool".  To
>     give a bit of an anecdote, John Vandenberg and I were doing a
>     demonstration of Commons to some librarians and cultural curators
>     yesterday, and it was a bit of a rude shock seeing that particular
>     image on the frontpage.  One of the more elderly contributors
>     remarked on it to me privately in a negative sense afterwards, all
>     I could do was look embarassed and say "Yes, it's a bit of a racy
>     image, isn't it.  Can't imagine how anyone thought that would be a
>     good idea".  That's probably one contributor who won't be beating
>     a path to our door in the future.
>     And, at the risk of editorialising here, those who are responding
>     to this criticism by claiming that we're asking for "censorship"
>     or that the freedom to plaster graphic images over the Commons
>     frontpage is a battle for liberty along the lines of the fight
>     against slavery or for universal suffrage... need to take an
>     aspirin and have a good lie down.  Nobody is claiming that such
>     images are not within Commons' scope; they quite clearly are, just
>     like pictures of penises, medical procedures, and other images
>     that people might find unpleasant are.  Should they be in scope
>     for the main page though?  I don't think so, the same as a picture
>     of a genital piercing, Osama bin Laden's bloodied corpse, or other
>     pictures that could possibly cause innocent people to get in
>     trouble should be out of main page scope.  As a community, I think
>     most of us are mature enough to apply a common sense test to these
>     things, and common sense would indicate that that image was likely
>     to be one that would cause needless offense to people and hurt the
>     project.
> Sorry for your bad experience. In light of that, it is a bit galling 
> to note that the contributor of
> the image says on his Commons user page,
> Rule #1: Commons is Censored [1] 
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3APotd%2F2011-05-16&action=historysubmit&diff=54418471&oldid=48204060>
> Some of my works were also accepted by */Featured Pictures/* 
> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_pictures>.
> But who really cares about this subjective nonsense? I don't 
> (anymore). It is equivalent to a private organization controlled by 
> some divas and is not representable for the variety of images 
> currently available on Commons.
> In short: /It is worth nothing and is total bullshit!/
> /
> /
> /
> /http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Niabot/
> /
> /
> /
> /The diva comment seems perceptive, though not in the way the 
> contributor meant it. It's/
> /absurd that //we let art from someone with those views hurt the 
> efforts of those that //actually/
> /believe in //this being an educational project. The tail wags the dog 
> here; the importance/
> /of manga in the overall "sum of human knowledge" is actually minute./
> /The Featured status of the image itself is under review in Commons; 
> the link is:/
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg#File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg 
> Andreas
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