[Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

Cary Bass bastique.ml at bastique.com
Mon May 16 19:54:34 UTC 2011

On 05/16/2011 12:40 PM, Chris McKenna wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2011, Cary Bass wrote:
>> > On 05/16/2011 12:17 PM, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
>>> >> In Japan it is a well known topic, in India i can't see any confusion
>>> >> about this image (it is on the mainpage) and Turkey decided to feature
>>> >> this image without any concern:
>>> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anime_Girl.svg
>> > That is a non-argument.  Firstly, the Main page on many Wikipedias
>> > defaults to the Main Page on Commons, because those Wikipedias trust
>> > Commons to make appropriate choices, which it has not, unfortunately, in
>> > this instance.
> Actaully, I think it has made the absolutely right choice - to stick to 
> it's founding principle of being not censored. 
Firstly, there's no such founding principle of Commons, and secondly,
"not censored" is not in Commons' mission, which is being addressed.

>> > Our goal is not to shock and surprise the end user, and in doing so, we
>> > have to respect the end user, which is not well-reflected by the make-up
>> > of the general Commons community.
>> >
> We best respect our end users by doing exactly what we say we will do - 
> i.e. provide an uncensored repository of educational and educationally 
> useful free media.
"Uncensored" is not in the mission of Commons, you're rather blatantly
inserting it here. Creating a culture of surprise and shock is not
fulfilling the mission.

And no, we absolutely do not "best respect" our end users by offending

Chris, I think you keep making the same argument over and over again and
refusing to actually take in what anyone has said in response to
you--your responses to me aren't actually responding to what I'm saying,
as if I or anyone else is assaulting the right of Commons to host
controversial or contentious images, which I am not doing.


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