[Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

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Tobias

Please explain how does one participate when their employment contract
specifically states that viewing of sexually explicit material over the
internet is a dismissable offense.

The issue isnt hosting the image its about where its displayed.

On 16 May 2011 22:32, Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Just logged in, so please bear with the possible wrong entry place.
>
> I strongly disagree with the removal. Not because that it is an image
> that i created. Because this is some kind of censorship, that goes
> strictly against the aims of the project itself. Some topics are fine
> and anybody can laugh about them, for some topics nobody cares and some
> topics causing confusion, hate and are a general nuisance.  The later
> mostly because of misunderstanding and lack of knowledge.
>
> But which kind of world will we describe? The world how it is - the
> truth? Or do we want to select some mild topics and enjoy little bunnies
> on a field with dozens of flowers, while one house away bombs fall and
> the doughters of the family begging for money? Isn't it a bit ridiculous
> to select topics and to show only the bright sides?
>
> Im just wondering why illustrations of war machines are ok, while
> anything that is related to sexual nature is considerd as evil. Some
> saying that they couldn't tell there children what such images are
> about. But what about a picture of a gun? Can you explain to your
> children, why people kill each other? You should and could at least try
> to explain. The earilier the better. Kids have an open mind, that i miss
> so much in this project.
>
> Reading the words of Sarah Stierch, someone could assume that a picture
> of a naked male is fine. Do we get more female contributers by treating
> them as some special, out of the oridinary? At the last meetings in
> Germany i met several women, most complaining about this rather "useless
> campaing", that they even found "discriminating".
>
> Back to the topic itself. Did you even know, that half of the mangaka
> are females? Works like "Kodomo no Jikan" are written by female authors.
> Sexuality is a primary topic. No one could life without it. Depictions
> of sexuallity are known for thousands of years. And that is the point
> where i start wondering. While old works are seen as something relevant,
> new works aren't. Why not? They are from our time. In the time we life.
>
> Sorry for my English. But English isn't my main language.
>
> Tobias Oelgarte
>
>
> Am 16.05.2011 16:24, schrieb Chris McKenna:
> > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> >
> >> The image is also not artistically, historically, or culturally
> significant,
> >> unlike all the other examples you cited.
> > Please cite your sources for the (lack of) artistic, historic, or
> cultural
> > significance for this image and all the other examples cited.
> >
> >> The only reason it's featured is
> >> because it's sexually arousing to anime fanboys who happen to dominate
> the
> >> culture of Wikimedia Commons.
> > Citation needed for a /very/ offensive remark.
> >
> >> I don't need to crawl into a semantic
> >> rabbit-hole to defend this observation.
> > Why? Please be objective, preferably include references to reliable
> > sources.
> >
> >> I think its obvious to any
> >> reasonable person. If the image would be embarrassing to pull up in
> front of
> >> a classful of students, it shouldn't be on the Commons Main Page.
> > Please define "reasonable person" in an objective, culturally neutral
> way.
> > Please list an objective set of culturally neutral criteria that would
> > allow any image to be safely displayed to any given group of people in a
> > way that does not introduce censorship or cultural bias.
> >
> > "Not censored" means just that. If you aren't happy that some images that
> > offend you (or you find offensive on others' behalf) might be displayed
> > then you should not use Wikimedia Commons.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ----
> > Chris McKenna
> >
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> >
> >
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> > but with the heart
> >
> > Antoine de Saint Exupery
> >
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