[Commons-l] Removal of images of deceased in consideration of living

[FloNight]

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/1/9 Cary Bass <cary at wikimedia.org>:
>> After receiving a complaint in the office about our retaining an image on an
>> article which was causing great distress to the living survivors of the
>> depicted individuals, I noticed the relavent discussion at
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Three_Dead_Navy_SEALs_in_Operation_Redwing.PNG>.
 I'm rather shocked and surprised
>> that our contributors can so callously treat the feelings of living
>> individuals just so that we can upload "free" photographs of dead people;
>> pictures which are certainly not necessary to our projects.
>>
>> This is not the same thing as censorship...this involves close personal
>> connections between living and dead people.
>>
>> We regularly delete photographs of individuals based on personality rights;
>> not because we're afraid of being sued but because it's the right thing to
>> do.  The insistence that we undelete these photos simply because they're
>> free and that they're not against policy, without any consideration of the
>> living survivors casts a rather dim shadow on our underlying efforts, that
>> of sharing knowledge.
>>
>> I sincerely hope some individuals with sympathetic concerns weigh in on the
>> discussion.
>>
>> (My comment at
>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3ADeletion_requests%
>> 2FFile%3AThree_Dead_Navy_SEALs_in_Operation_Redwing.PNG&diff=17521626&oldid=
>> 17519286>, for reference).
>>
>> Cary Bass
>> [[User:Bastique]]
>
> Not going to happen. We have a fair number of photos that would
> probably upset people including close family members. We have a lot of
> content that would upset people full stop. Throw in the general fear
> of what could follow if we compromise on this and that rather a lot of
> wikipedians don't exactly function socially in a conventional manner
> and you are unlikely to make much progress.
>
> Now me I would argue it on copyright grounds since historical practice
> is to ignore the afghan anomaly since at some point they will sort out
> a copyright system and deleting a lot of stuff as a result is likely
> to be time consuming.
>
>
> --
> geni
>
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