On 25/01/2008, Rama Rama ramaneko@gmail.com wrote:
Nope mostly credit Getty and AP
Yes, "credits" indeed. To agencies or to the photographer personally changes nothing.
Interesting claim. Pretty much every legal system outside the US disagrees with you.
One of the photographers to whom I talked was requesting credits be given to the client for whom he'd made the image.
How many counter examples do I have to provide
You don't. Your claim that the practice is not standard is effectively disproved by exhibiting examples of major sites doing it. Your providing instances of sites which do not changes nothing.
You realize that you could use the above argument to claim that being owned by google is standard practice (I can exhibit examples of major sites that are owned by google). Try thinking about your argument for a moment.
The Dorling Kindersley Science Encyclopedia does not credit in captions. Clayden Greeves Warren and Wothers's Organic Chemistry doesn't credit in captions The BBC's Space our final frontier doesn't credit in captions. Guinness world records do not credit in captions
We don't *have* to do anything.
You start offering caption guarantees and we will
I have absolutely not suggested giving any sort of guarantee whatsoever, which would obviously be both stupid and infeasible. I have suggested making our users aware of the fact that giving credits in this way can in some cases be a constructive behaviour. I think that we see, too often, people removing credits on principle, which discourages valuable contributors and serves no purpose. I believe that people should be educated in considering whether this is necessary or benefitial. That is all.
The considering has been done. The answer is no.
And how would that be a problem ?
Generally it is not considered a good idea to advertise porn sites in your image captions. "Prussian Blue courtesy of all Jews should hang inc" isn't even going to be legal in quite a number of countries.
Your first example (wetriffs) would not be a problem, in my opinion.
That is rather the problem.
For your second example, we'd just refuse to run the credits. Once again, I never suggested that we guarantee credits, nor that giving credits should be systematic. Incidentally, congratulations on your Godwin point.
Prussian blue are not nazis and Antisemitism has a long history in Europe before Hitler gave it a bad name.