[Commons-l] King of the FlickrLickrs

samuli at samulilintula.net samuli at samulilintula.net
Tue Feb 20 09:38:49 UTC 2007


> On 2/19/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> On 2/20/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is there a reason on why flckrlickr doesn't fill in the fields at
>> > {{flickreview}} template?
>>
>> The template was invented only recently, and has been applied to
>> FlickrLickr images even more recently. FlickrLickr images are reviewed
>> & correctly licensed (they were all under CC-BY when my bot spidered
>> them); CC licenses are not revocable. The justification here is that
>> "Another look can't hurt"; I'm worried that it will cause Fear,
>> Uncertainty and Doubt.
>
> *Sigh*
>
> Erik, if a Flickr user misclicked on the dropdown and selected the
> wrong license unknowingly and unintentionally they did not make a
> valid release under that license.  Not only would such an accidental
> and uncompensated release have zero legal standing, it is terrible
> from a position of ethics.

IIRC, and it has been a short while since I uploaded images with
FlickrLickr, a FlickrLickr user *does not* select any license from a
dropdown box.

> Furthermore, there are *many* copyright violations on Flickr.  Flickr
> refuses to take complaints from third parties so it is no wonder the
> accumulate.  A second human review is a good sanity check against
> situations where the flickr user is not really the copyright holder.

Yes, but this chance has already once been reviewed by a FlickrLickr user.
A second checks is just as silly an idea as double checking all images
uploaded directly to Commons.

> I hope that you can see the advantages of review and will withdraw
> your objections.  No one is asking you to do any work on it... and the
> end result should be a healther collection of content and a larger
> community. I think it's a good tradeoff for verses a tiny number of
> potentially ambiguously copyrighted images that we'll lose.

Well, I'm not going to touch any of those images I uploaded with
FlickrLickr. Re-checking them is a waste of time, tagging them was a
stupid move, and I'll let someone else choke on work no one has time to
do.




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