[Advocacy Advisors] ECHR Grand Chamber judgment Delfi AS v. Estonia

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Wed Jun 17 13:35:03 UTC 2015


There is a balanced German language analysis here:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Gerichtshof-Verlagsportal-fuer-Nutzer-Beleidigungen-verantwortlich-2706760.html

Main points:

- it is not directly applicable to all member states
- social networks and non profit message boards are not affected

 From this reading I would count Wikipedia exempt, as they specifically 
state that Delfi invites users to contribute content TO MAKE A PROFIT OR 
FOSTER THEIR  BUSINESS MODEL

"Dabei hebt das Gericht hervor, dass sich die Entscheidung nur auf die 
Pflichten eines professionell geführten Internet-News-Portals bezieht, 
welches seine Leser auffordert, Kommentare zu den veröffentlichten 
Beiträgen abzugeben und hiervon auch wirtschaftlich profitiert. 
Ausdrücklich weisen die Richter weiter darauf hin, dass die Entscheidung 
nicht Diskussionsforen oder Bulletin Boards umfasst, wo Nutzer 
untereinander Meinungen austauschen können und die von Privatpersonen 
betrieben werden. Gleiches gilt für Social-Media-Plattformen wie 
Facebook. "

Best Hauke


Am 17.06.2015 15:16 schrieb Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov:
> I feel like Siim is the person to ask about this. I am putting him in
> cc in case he's not on the list.
> 
> 2015-06-17 15:13 GMT+02:00 Nikolas Becker
> <nikolas.becker at wikimedia.de>:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> yesterdays decision by the ECHR on the liability of an internet news
>> portal for offensive online comments makes me wonder about its
>> implications for wikipedia:
>> 
>> "Commercially-run Internet news portal was liable for the offensive
>> online comments of its readers"
>> 
>> 
> http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/sites/eng-press/Pages/search.aspx#{%22sort%22:[%22kpdate%20Descending%22],%22languageisocode%22:[%22ENG%22],%22itemid%22:[%22003-5110487-6300958%22]}
>> [1]
>> 
>> Since this potentially affects all 47 member states of the council
>> of europe, it could have far-reaching effects.
>> 
>> Does anyone have further insights or opinions?
>> 
>> Nikolas
>> 
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>> Nikolas Becker
>> 
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