[Advocacy Advisors] Use of this list as evidence of consultation

[Stephen LaPorte]

Hello Fae,

The purpose of the guideline is to provide opportunity for community
members to guide and provide feedback on the Wikimedia Foundation's
advocacy positions. It is our internal guideline, not a binding policy or
contract (see the FAQ for the guideline). If you have an issue with the
Necessary and Proportionate principles or the WMF taking a stance against
mass surveillance, you are welcome to raise it here or on Meta.

Best,
Stephen


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Fæ <faewik at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Maggie,
>
> The link to the Foundation policy is helpful. The most relevant
> section appears to be "Collaborative Advocacy". If that is right then
> what happens is "Advocacy Advisory Group (consultation), RfC
> (consultation if time permits), and General notice".
>
> Though a link to an email thread of this group has now been given as a
> remark on the blog post, a general notice and RFC has been skipped,
> despite this document being available and under discussion for more
> than six months (so "time permits" applies). I believe the WMF was not
> successful in complying with its own policy in this case.
>
> Is my reading correct?
>
> Fae
>
>
> On 15 May 2014 11:48, Maggie Dennis <mdennis at wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > Hello, Fae.
> >
> > If you have not seen it, there is brief discussion, including a
> definition
> > of the group, at
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal_and_Community_Advocacy/Foundation_Policy_and_Political_Association_Guideline
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Maggie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Fæ <faewik at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have joined this email list as it appears to be used as evidence of
> >> Wikimedia community consultation.[1] I certainly was unaware that this
> >> list was being used for this purpose, and I am concerned that wider
> >> consultation processes may not be attempted.
> >>
> >> The only scope for this list I can find is that at
> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy_advisors> which
> >> says nothing about representation. Could someone point me to better
> >> definition?
> >>
> >> Links
> >> 1. Refer to the WMF blog post response by Roshni Patel at
> >>
> >> <
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/09/opposing-mass-surveillance-on-the-internet/
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Fae
> >> --
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> >
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Stephen LaPorte
Legal Counsel
Wikimedia Foundation

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