[Advocacy Advisors] Google Brussels and the "right to be forgotten"

Julia Reda julia.reda at young-pirates.eu
Sat Jun 7 09:32:23 UTC 2014


Hi,

since I'm in the Greens/EFA group now, I'd consult with Jan Albrecht
first to see if he has any plans regarding such an event. But I would be
happy to contribute, perhaps even emphasizing the free speech part of
the debate. :)

Best,
Julia

On 06/06/2014 08:24 PM, aktron at centrum.cz wrote:
> Dimi,
>  
> Thanks for the analysis!
>  
> I feel it funny when the people are "collectively responsible". It
> usually ends in throwing the blame like a hot potato between all the
> guys :-D 
>  
> Was there any talk about ... "how this decision might change the very
> essence of web 2.0 projects?"
>  
> Would Julia Reda be interested in organizing such an event in september
> ? :-)
>  
> Jan
> ______________________________________________________________
>> Od: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>
>> Komu: Advocacy Advisory Group for WMF LCA
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>> Datum: 06.06.2014 12:48
>> Předmět: [Advocacy Advisors] Google Brussels and the "right to be
>> forgotten"
>>
> Hi all,
> 
> I just came back from my talk with the Google policy team in Brussels
> about the recent CJEU ruling [1] that had them provide a take-down
> request form. [1]Here's my initial notes:
> 
> They will not de-index sites, they will simply modify the results for
> searching a given name.According to their lawyer, the court didn't
> specify the technological method, it just told them to remove "URLs
> linked to a name". They were not asked to de-index.Modification of the
> results only apply to the EU Google domains. Searches from outside
> Europe remain unchanged. Currently their entire legal team is
> collectively responsible for making the decision on which requests to be
> granted. They see this as a "right to privacy" vs. "freedom of
> expression" balancing issue and are unhappy with the ruling, as,
> according to them, it gives more weight to the "right to privacy".Google
> doesn't want to play court and judge here. They'd like to figure out a
> way for someone else to make the decisions as to which requests should
> be granted (talking about Internet Governance)We agreed that the future
> General Data Protection Regulation in the EU will have a major impact on
> this and that the cour
> t ruling put "right to be fogotten" on the policy agenda in this field.
> Work on the Regulation is expected to resume around December/JanuaryAs
> we don't know what all the actors think of this (digital rights groups,
> industry, policy-makers) it would be important to map the different
> positions over the next few monthsWe agreed that it would be good to
> have public, broad round-table on the topic "right to be fogotten" in
> Spetember/October in Brussels (just an idea so far)I basically explained
> to them how the Wikimedia movement is constructed and the roles of the
> different organisations and communities. I also told them that we can't
> have a position on this as long as we don't have the results of an
> in-depth legal analysis, but for us it would also be good to know what
> all the stakeholders think about this issue. I also agreed that it is a
> "right to privacy" vs. "freedom of expression" balancing act here. I
> added that IMO there might be a higher risk of censorship if the removal
>  decisions are left up to each company/organisation as it currenlty is. 
> I am thinkingthat if the idea of having a round-touble on this in
> Brussels proves popular among other NGOs, companies and policy-makers we
> should most definitely join in. If it remians a Google-only organised
> event, we might need to be more careful. Cheers,
> Dimi
>  
> [1]
> http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=152065&pageIndex=0&doclang=en&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=621304[2]
> <http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?text=&docid=152065&pageIndex=0&doclang=en&mode=lst&dir=&occ=first&part=1&cid=621304[2]>
> [2]https://support.google.com/legal/troubleshooter/1114905?rd=1
> <https://support.google.com/legal/troubleshooter/1114905?rd=1>
>  
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