[Advocacy Advisors] [Wikimediauk-l] EU copyright consultation deadline has beenextended

Wed Feb 12 17:56:01 UTC 2014

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:11 AM, <aktron at centrum.cz> wrote:

> Luis,
>
>
>
> Some of the people (outside of WM community) suggested that it might be a
> good idea to promote this via SiteNotidce. But I think it is quite a brutal
> tool.
>

I agree. Does anyone else have other suggestions?

>
>
> Btw.: What do you mean by "load into"? I mean, I already did the Czech
> translation for copywrongs and I know the youcan.fixcopyright.eu but a
> question remains ... what is the thing you wanted to do by "loading"?
>

I meant "whatever it takes to get the content into the tool" - don't know
if it is in git, in a wiki, maintained by hand, etc. Presumably someone has
to do some work to make the answers appear on the site :)

Luis

> Jan
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> > Od: Luis Villa <lvilla at wikimedia.org>
> > Komu: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia <
> advocacy_advisors at lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Datum: 12.02.2014 02:44
>
> > Předmět: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] [Wikimediauk-l] EU copyright
> consultation deadline has beenextended
> >
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:56 PM, <aktron at centrum.cz> wrote:
>
>> Luis,
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem is that the form published by the Commission is very hard to
>> understand. I had myself a lot of problems with interpretation of some of
>> the questions and I do believe I was not the only one.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be a good idea to have something like copywrongs.eu - more
>> simplified. People might be willing to participate more in that, because
>> they can understand it better.
>>
>  A few things we could do:
> - load it into http://youcan.fixcopyright.eu/ - I assume, but don't
> actually know - Dimi?
> - pick a subset of questions and load them into http://copywrongs.eu/ -
> not sure I have the time to do the picking of the subset; perhaps folks
> here who have played with copywrongs might suggest which ones would work
> best?
>
>  But it seems like neither of them is worthwhile unless we are also
> committed to promote the link pretty broadly so that Wikimedians are
> actually encouraged to use the site to submit things. That's really the
> question - should someone do that?
>
> Luis
>
>
>> Aktron
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> > Od: Luis Villa <lvilla at wikimedia.org>
>> > Komu: Advocacy Advisory Group for Wikimedia <
>> advocacy_advisors at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Datum: 10.02.2014 18:49
>>
>> > Předmět: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] [Wikimediauk-l] EU copyright
>> consultation deadline has beenextended
>> >
>>
>>
>>  Hi, Aktron-
>>
>> First, thanks for all your contributions on-wiki! Much appreciated - hope
>> you like my answers (all of which are up now for people to
>> review/discuss/use for their own answers).
>>
>> About the other groups - do you think the community should be doing more
>> to get Wikimedians to submit answers? I'm open to the idea, but not sure
>> how best to make that happen (or even if it is a good idea- Dimi?)
>>
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:21 AM, <aktron at centrum.cz> wrote:
>>
>>> Luis,
>>>
>>>
>>> Two days ago I've been informed about the fact that institutions that
>>> are standing on the other side of the barrier (ie. so-called "creators")
>>> already have their own initiative (creators for Europe) and they massively
>>> spam all the "creators", asking for their support (ie. against free
>>> knowledge and for more strict protection of their position - the good topic
>>> might be the PD-70 deadline that is also currently ... a matter of
>>> negotiation).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I can see, the number of responses sent to the Commission from
>>> them is supposed to be similar to what Copywrongs sent (cca 3k), so it is
>>> an interesting question what the final result will be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also got informations that certain political (ie. Pirate) parties plan
>>> to post billboards (tens of them) to support the copyright consultations
>>> and to make the general public more engaged in this. So we'll see - I am
>>> also posting this so that WM will be aware about things that are currently
>>> going on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan Loužek - Aktron
>>>
>>> Wikimedia Czech Republic
>>>
>>> vice-chairman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> > Od: Luis Villa <lvilla at wikimedia.org>
>>> > Komu: Andrew Gray <andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk>
>>> > Datum: 04.02.2014 16:26
>>> > Předmět: Re: [Advocacy Advisors] [Wikimediauk-l] EU copyright
>>> consultation deadline has beenextended
>>> >
>>>  I changed the schedule yesterday morning- where are you looking?
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=European_Commission_copyright_consultation&diff=prev&oldid=7334381
>>> Luis
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quick query - given the extensions, have we filed the WMF submission
>>>> yet or are we holding off for further comments through February? Not
>>>> clear from the meta page...
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On 31 January 2014 23:25, Michael Maggs <Michael at maggs.name> wrote:
>>>> > Thanks for the update. Not sure how "terrific" I find that news,
>>>> personally,
>>>> > given that I have spent around 20 hours over the last two days
>>>> working to
>>>> > meet the original deadline!
>>>> >
>>>> > Best regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Michael
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ____________
>>>> > Michael Maggs
>>>> > Chair, Wikimedia UK
>>>> >
>>>> > On 31 Jan 2014, at 23:10, Luis Villa <lvilla at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > That's terrific to hear!
>>>> >
>>>> > As an update on my end, I've done up to question 71, so this gives us
>>>> a
>>>> > little more time to review and flesh those out.
>>>> >
>>>> > [For what it is worth, Michael, looking at the page here shows:
>>>> >
>>>> > From 05.12.2013 to 05.03.2014 (deadline extended).
>>>> >
>>>> > ]
>>>> >
>>>> > Luis
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Andrew Gray
>>>>   andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk
>>>>
>>>
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