[Advocacy Advisors] Digital Rights Networking Lunch @ Wikimania

[L.Gelauff]

Hi Yana,

I was just curious if you feel this has a specific reason compared to other
meetings. I mean, I am certain that female Wiki Loves Monuments organizers
would feel the same way about a Wiki Loves lunch (doesn't that sound
great?) on Sunday.

Anyway, personally I don't mind too much - the schedule will be packed
anyway. And a lunch without meeting sounds much more appealing to me.

Lodewijk


2014-08-03 22:32 GMT+02:00 Yana Welinder <ywelinder at wikimedia.org>:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> You are absolutely right and I definitely don't think that the sunday
> lunch should be off limits to other meetings.  But I think that this
> particular meeting because of its focus on broader policy would benefit
> from having female participants, who are glaringly missing from the current
> participant list.
>
> Best,
> Yana
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 1:25 PM, L.Gelauff <lgelauff at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yana,
>>
>> that is the downside of having a wikiwomen lunch in the first place of
>> course - any meeting that would be planned in parallel would face the same
>> problem I guess (maybe except a WikiGuys lunch) of an underrepresentation
>> of women. I'm not sure if that should mean that the Sunday lunch should
>> therefore be off limits to any other meetings...
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-03 22:10 GMT+02:00 Yana Welinder <ywelinder at wikimedia.org>:
>>
>> I just realized that you scheduled the Digital Rights Networking Lunch at
>>> the same time as the WikiWomen’s lunch. It doesn't look like a lot of
>>> people have confirmed attendance and it hasn't been added to the official
>>> Wikimania program.  So perhaps there is still time to reschedule.
>>>
>>> Scheduling these two meetings at the same time means that most women who
>>> are interested in policy will not be able to attend and the gathering will
>>> be akin to an old-boys club. That in turn gives Wikimedia’s policy efforts
>>> less legitimacy in the broader digital rights community, which has had a
>>> lot of discussions about gender balance and has pretty good female
>>> representation overall. I know that the Wikimania schedule is tight, but
>>> there must be a way you can schedule this to avoid excluding an entire
>>> gender!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Yana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>> dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've set up a page [1] and requested a room for our networking lunch on
>>>> Sunday. It will be in parallel with the WikiWomen's Lunch, so I apologise
>>>> to everyone whose scheduling now got even harder. This was, however, the
>>>> best possible timeslot I could manage.
>>>>
>>>> As it is not possible to get a list of all Wikimania attendees and
>>>> filter out the digital and policy activists among them to send out
>>>> invitations, please help me by inviting anyone you know will be present and
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dimi
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Networking_Lunch
>>>>
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> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.
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