[Advocacy Advisors] Draft letter to UK MEPs on copyright

Wed Apr 2 13:39:00 UTC 2014

Hey Stevie,

Absolutely great to hear it has already received some positive replies. I
am getting excited. Make sure you follow up on the people who replied and
try to build up a relationship with them.

Could you perhaps  give us a short presentation about this initiative at
the Big Fat Brussels Meeting Vol.
2<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/EU_Policy/Big_Fat_Brussels_Meeting_Vol._2>?
I believe this is a project that can very well be upscaled and made in
other EU countries. What a great chance to transfer know-how across the
movement and build capacity to represent our interests.

Cheers,
Dimi

2014-04-02 15:19 GMT+02:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton at wikimedia.org.uk>:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Nikolas, sorry I didn't respond to this before, I must have missed your
> message. Your point is certainly valid and I'll bear it in mind for any
> future activity.
>
> On the Wikimedia UK letter to local MEPs, we've had four messages of
> support so far, representing the three largest political parties here. This
> is just a start and I am sure more will follow. I'll offer an update at a
> later time.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Stevie
>
>
> On 21 March 2014 18:19, Nikolas Becker <nikolas.becker at wikimedia.de>wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Thanks for the initiative! A point that might be taken into account for
>> future initiatives: Instead of talking just about "our" situation (we
>> can't use), we imho should frame this as a general problem: "Free and
>> open media can't use ..." or s.th. like that ...
>>
>> Cheerio
>> Niko
>>
>> Nikolas Becker
>>
>> Chair of the Board/Vorsitzender
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V.
>>
>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23/24
>> 10963 Berlin
>>
>> www.wikimedia.de
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
>> unter der Nummer 23855 B.
>> Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I
>> Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-21 9:12 GMT-07:00 Stevie Benton <stevie.benton at wikimedia.org.uk>:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> Thanks once more for the useful feedback. The letter has now been sent.
>>> The final print version can be seen at
>>> https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/File:Letter_to_MEPs_with_images.pdf
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>
>>> Stevie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 March 2014 12:56, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton at wikimedia.org.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello again,
>>>>
>>>> Just to pick this up once more.
>>>>
>>>> Matthias, I take your point about the turnover of MEPs. But the sooner
>>>> we get this out, the sooner people begin paying attention. If we wait for a
>>>> perfect time - like some other groups - we will likely get lost in the
>>>> noise. There's no reason we can't follow-up with newly elected MEPs in the
>>>> summer. Also, I see what you mean about Big Ben potentially being
>>>> misinterpreted. It's also not a great example as it would be out of
>>>> copyright anyway, so am going to use a different image.
>>>>
>>>> Bence - that was a useful spot, thank you. The updated version has the
>>>> links as footnotes.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to make some changes to the letter today and I'm hoping to
>>>> get the final version printed and sent by the end of the week.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stevie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 March 2014 09:28, Stevie Benton <stevie.benton at wikimedia.org.uk>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you everyone for your thoughtful comments. These will be taken
>>>>> into consideration for the final version of the letter which is likely to
>>>>> be printed and posted today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stevie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14 March 2014 09:11, Mathias Schindler <
>>>>> mathias.schindler at wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-14 9:54 GMT+01:00 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
>>>>>> <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > As to Mathias' comment on the MEPs: Yes, there will be some
>>>>>> considerable
>>>>>> > turnover, but at the same time politicians are most likely to pay
>>>>>> attention
>>>>>> > to such a thing before election time. Sending it out just to the
>>>>>> ones we
>>>>>> > believe might get reelected would be - diplomatically speaking - bad
>>>>>> > diplomacy. Can't we just resend it after the elections to just the
>>>>>> newly
>>>>>> > elected MEPs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is already too much bad diplomacy out there, so thanks for Dimis
>>>>>> argument. As you can see from
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2014_(United_Kingdom)#Current_MEPs_by_European_Political_Group
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> the number of parties who did send MEPs to Brussels was considerable.
>>>>>> It would be possible to send such a letter to the parties before the
>>>>>> election and to the specific elected MEPs afterwards.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Stevie Benton
>>>>> Head of External Relations
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>>>>> @StevieBenton
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>>>>>
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