[Advocacy Advisors] EU Data Protection Reform / "Right to be forgotten" softened

Fri Jan 11 21:02:26 UTC 2013

> We're the odd kid on the block.
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Absolutely d'accord, Dimi, and this will also hold for the upcoming
copyright consultation process. Of course, I will borrow this phrase from
you ;-)

It's friday night in Berlin, folks. Hope to continue the conversation soon.

Jan

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> 2013/1/11 Jan Engelmann <jan.engelmann at wikimedia.de>
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>> Hi James and Amgine,
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>> nobody denies that Wikimedia already applies privacy by design and by
>> default, as intended by the Commission. But we should read the draft
>> through European lenses and that means: the intention to apply a new gold
>> standard of privacy matters to all data controllers. For us as consumers
>> this is very good news. Regarding the necessities of an open platform, we
>> should accurately analyze if there are any requirements we can't comply
>> with.
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>> You will find the Art. 17.2 proposed by the EU commission on page 96
>> (left column)
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>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/libe/pr/922/922387/922387en.pdf
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>> It says:
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>> "Where the controller ... has made the personal data public, it shall
>> take all reasonable steps, including technical measures, in relation to
>> data for the publication of which the controller is responsible, to inform
>> third parties which are processing such data, that a data subject requests
>> them to erase any links to, or copy or replication of that personal data.
>> Where the controller has authorised a third party publication of personal
>> data, the controller shall be considered responsible for that publication."
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>> Many law experts (IANAL) went nuts when they read this particular
>> paragraph. The new Art. 2a (same page, right column) proposed by the
>> rapporteur brings freedom of expression into play. So this was the basic
>> message I wanted to give: the proposal is getting better, but still has to
>> go through several stages of the drafting process. The Parliament is bound
>> to find a common position until end of february.
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>> Regards, Jan
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>> 2013/1/11 Amgine <amgine at wikimedians.ca>
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>>> On 11/01/13 10:06 AM, Jan Engelmann wrote:
>>> > No, our concerns weren't paranoid at all. Have you even read the
>>> > initial Draft Poposal? OK, let's shift the scenario from a
>>> > WP-article about a public figure to personal data embedded in user
>>> > pages or discussion pages. Then any erasure based on data
>>> > protection claims would affect the consistency of the whole
>>> > project. Aren't we worried about authors' retention all the time?
>>> > Here is another reason why. And how do you judge the surveillence
>>> > program deriving from Art 17.2? Do you think a volunteer community
>>> > which is already concerned with maaany copyright and personality
>>> > rights issues could handle that? And please, AGF. J
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>>> I believe it has already been mentioned: we already do this stuff. I
>>> also mentioned I am not as familiar as I should be with the proposal,
>>> but most likely the communities can (and will, if the proposal is
>>> implemented) develop methods to comply with the surveillance program.
>>> Again, we already do.
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>>> I wonder more if the proposal is balanced and implementable, if
>>> compliance is measurable, and what incentives and disincentives it
>>> provides. On the face of it, the synopses suggest it should be
>>> supported by the WMF though it does not go as far as our communities
>>> already do.
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Obentrautstr. 72
10963 Berlin

Telefon 030 - 219 158 26-0
www.wikimedia.de

Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch an der Menge allen
Wissens frei teilhaben kann. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
http://spenden.wikimedia.de/

**** Helfen Sie mit, dass WIKIPEDIA von der UNESCO als erstes digitales
Weltkulturerbe anerkannt wird. Unterzeichnen Sie die Online-Petition!
http://wikipedia.de ****

Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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