Thanks for the notice! Cc the mediawiki-i18n list. :-)
Federico
Il 13/05/26 08:51, Srishti Sethi via Wikitech-ambassadors ha scritto:
> Hello everyone!
>
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It's now possible to add new translations ("submissions") for CLDR 49 if
you have an account.
For those who asked an account, I'll get back to you soon, but feel free
to ask again.
More information as usual at
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/CLDR
For those at the hackathon, I am not there but I *believe* you can find
someone who can help with CLDR by yelling "i18n" or asking the usual
suspects. Let me know if not.
Best,
Federico
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Hello Adélaïde,
I just want to publicly appreciate the work that you and the team are doing
to expand the venue's capacity and keep people informed about the process.
Hopefully you'll get showered with appreciation in France for all the
efforts you're making to put together an amazing event!
cheers,
El mar, 21 abr 2026 a las 15:01, Adélaïde via Wikimania-l (<
wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>) escribió:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I’m writing with some additional information on how the waitlist works, as
> well as the current status. All of this information and more is now covered
> in the Registration FAQ on the Wikimania Wiki
> <https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2026:Registration#FAQ>.
>
> We are working with the venue to expand event capacity by 100 to 200
> people. One of the biggest challenges for each Wikimania is to find a venue
> with 8+ breakout rooms that also has a large enough main amphitheater. To
> overcome this, Wikimania 2026 will have an extra space beyond the main
> amphitheater for the opening ceremony, which helps us expand event
> capacity.
>
> This has entailed securing additional space for the opening ceremony as
> well as additional breakout rooms. As a result of releasing small batches
> of additional tickets, removing duplicates, and processing cancellations,
> as of April 21, around 80 people have come off the waitlist and been given
> the opportunity to request an invite. This process will continue over the
> next few weeks.
>
> *If you are on the waitlist, it is essential that you check your email
> daily. *Once a slot frees up, the next person on the waitlist will
> automatically receive an email with a link to request an invitation. The
> link will only be valid for 48 hours. Please whitelist emails sent from
> info(a)eventyay.com and check all email folders (including spam). If you do
> not respond within 48 hours, the system will automatically move to the next
> person on the list.
>
> When you click on the link, you will be taken to a form to submit your
> request for invitation. Once submitted, your request will undergo a trust
> and safety review, and you will receive a response within 14 days – this is
> the same process for all prospective attendees. (Trust and safety reviews
> are only carried out once someone comes off the waitlist and completes
> their request for invitation.) Please continue monitoring your email, as
> once you receive an invitation you will have 7 days to complete
> registration by initiating payment.
>
> We believe that there will be some accepted speakers who have been unable
> to secure a place at Wikimania to date. An increased number of tickets are
> now set aside for those cases, which will be offered to unregistered,
> accepted speakers in mid-May when the program decisions are finalized.
>
> After accommodating speakers, we hope to be able to release any remaining
> spaces to the waitlist, likely around *early June*. Once those slots are
> taken, a few spaces may become available due to last-minute cancellations,
> but there are no guarantees.
>
> We will continue to update the FAQ on the Wikimania Wiki as the status
> changes. We would advise against making any non-refundable travel and hotel
> reservations until your registration is confirmed.
>
> Thank you again for your understanding as we work to accommodate as many
> attendees as possible at Wikimania Paris.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> *Adélaïde CALAIS*
>
> *Responsable communauté en ligne / Coordinatrice Wikimania *
> *+33 1 42 36 26 24* <+33142362624>
> *+33 6 38 36 13 32* <+33638361332>
> *-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
> *WIKIMEDIA FRANCE*
> Association pour le libre partage de la connaissance
> *www.wikimedia.fr <http://www.wikimedia.fr/>*
> *28 rue de Londres, 75009 PARIS*
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1234174880>
>
> Le 2026-04-21 19:10, Elena Lappen a écrit :
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Guillaume Paumier via Wikimania-l <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> *Subject: **[Wikimania-l] Re: How does the waitlist work?*
> *Date: *April 20, 2026 at 1:38:24 AM PDT
> *To: *"Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Cc: *"Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>, Guillaume Paumier <
> guillaume.paumier(a)gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <
> wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to second Nemo's request for timely updates. Unless I missed
> something (which is very possible), I haven't seen any official news since
> the announcement weeks ago that the in-person event was sold out.
>
> I imagine I am not the only one about to finalize my summer travel based
> on the current assumption that I can't attend Wikimania (something I am
> very disappointed about, but I can accept).
>
> If, by some twist of good fortune, some of us currently on the waitlist
> ended up getting an invitation to attend, learning about it after our other
> travel arrangements are made would be adding insult to injury.
>
> As Wikimedians, we are all aware of how harmful lack of reliable
> information can be. Something as simple as "if you haven't heard from us by
> April 30, you can be certain you won't be able to attend" would go a long
> way to reduce uncertainty.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2026 at 7:25 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) via Wikimania-l <
> wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> I am in the waitlist for Wikimania. (I pre-registered on April 2nd; I
>> had no idea there was a risk of it being sold out in a day.)
>>
>> I heard different rumours and speculation on whether Wikimania is
>> "really" sold out or significantly more seats will be freed once people
>> have to pay for the registration.
>>
>> Can we give some basic information for (aspiring) attendees, such as
>> * how many people are going to be accepted in total (beyond
>> "pre-approved" participants like scholars),
>> * how many were already accepted and have paid for it,
>> * how the waitlist is managed and
>> * when one needs to start worrying about their registration not
>> succeeding?
>>
>> For example, the registration form said a background check would be
>> conducted but I have no idea how that's possible when I only provided an
>> email address. What if I chose the "wrong" email address? I assumed
>> someone would contact me to confirm if they can't find out whose address
>> it is, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>
>> Speaking of scholarships, personally I did not apply because I am happy
>> to pay for my own costs and I prefer if scholarships go to first-time
>> attendees, but I probably would have applied had I known it was the only
>> chance to get in. People are probably making decisions right now about
>> their attendance (including booking or not booking accommodation) which
>> may turn out to be wrong later due to a lack of correct information.
>>
>> Best,
>> Federico
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
Hi everyone,
I'm writing with some additional information on how the
waitlist works, as well as the current status. All of this information
and more is now covered in the Registration FAQ on the Wikimania Wiki
[1].
We are working with the venue to expand event capacity by 100 to
200 people. One of the biggest challenges for each Wikimania is to find
a venue with 8+ breakout rooms that also has a large enough main
amphitheater. To overcome this, Wikimania 2026 will have an extra space
beyond the main amphitheater for the opening ceremony, which helps us
expand event capacity.
This has entailed securing additional space
for the opening ceremony as well as additional breakout rooms. As a
result of releasing small batches of additional tickets, removing
duplicates, and processing cancellations, as of April 21, around 80
people have come off the waitlist and been given the opportunity to
request an invite. This process will continue over the next few weeks.
IF YOU ARE ON THE WAITLIST, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU CHECK YOUR EMAIL
DAILY. Once a slot frees up, the next person on the waitlist will
automatically receive an email with a link to request an invitation. The
link will only be valid for 48 hours. Please whitelist emails sent from
info(a)eventyay.com and check all email folders (including spam). If you
do not respond within 48 hours, the system will automatically move to
the next person on the list.
When you click on the link, you will be
taken to a form to submit your request for invitation. Once submitted,
your request will undergo a trust and safety review, and you will
receive a response within 14 days - this is the same process for all
prospective attendees. (Trust and safety reviews are only carried out
once someone comes off the waitlist and completes their request for
invitation.) Please continue monitoring your email, as once you receive
an invitation you will have 7 days to complete registration by
initiating payment.
We believe that there will be some accepted
speakers who have been unable to secure a place at Wikimania to date. An
increased number of tickets are now set aside for those cases, which
will be offered to unregistered, accepted speakers in mid-May when the
program decisions are finalized.
After accommodating speakers, we
hope to be able to release any remaining spaces to the waitlist, likely
around EARLY JUNE. Once those slots are taken, a few spaces may become
available due to last-minute cancellations, but there are no guarantees.
We will continue to update the FAQ on the Wikimania Wiki as the status
changes. We would advise against making any non-refundable travel and
hotel reservations until your registration is confirmed.
Thank you
again for your understanding as we work to accommodate as many attendees
as possible at Wikimania Paris.
Sincerely,
ADÉLAÏDE CALAIS
Responsable communauté en ligne / Coordinatrice Wikimania
_+33 1 42
36 26 24_ [2]
_+33 6 38 36 13 32_ [3]
_-------------------------------------------------------------------------_
WIKIMEDIA FRANCE
Association pour le libre partage de la
connaissance
_WWW.WIKIMEDIA.FR [4]_
_28 rue de Londres, 75009 PARIS_
[5]
Le 2026-04-21 19:10, Elena Lappen a écrit :
> Begin forwarded
message:
> FROM: Guillaume Paumier via Wikimania-l
<wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> SUBJECT: [WIKIMANIA-L] RE: HOW
DOES THE WAITLIST WORK?
>
> DATE: April 20, 2026 at 1:38:24 AM PDT
>
>
TO: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
<wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> CC: "Federico Leva (Nemo)"
<nemowiki(a)gmail.com>, Guillaume Paumier <guillaume.paumier(a)gmail.com>
>
> REPLY-TO: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)"
<wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like to
second Nemo's request for timely updates. Unless I missed something
(which is very possible), I haven't seen any official news since the
announcement weeks ago that the in-person event was sold out.
>
> I
imagine I am not the only one about to finalize my summer travel based
on the current assumption that I can't attend Wikimania (something I am
very disappointed about, but I can accept).
>
> If, by some twist of
good fortune, some of us currently on the waitlist ended up getting an
invitation to attend, learning about it after our other travel
arrangements are made would be adding insult to injury.
>
> As
Wikimedians, we are all aware of how harmful lack of reliable
information can be. Something as simple as "if you haven't heard from us
by April 30, you can be certain you won't be able to attend" would go a
long way to reduce uncertainty.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2026
at 7:25 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) via Wikimania-l
<wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: I am in the waitlist for
Wikimania. (I pre-registered on April 2nd; I
> had no idea there was a
risk of it being sold out in a day.)
>
> I heard different rumours and
speculation on whether Wikimania is
> "really" sold out or
significantly more seats will be freed once people
> have to pay for
the registration.
>
> Can we give some basic information for (aspiring)
attendees, such as
> * how many people are going to be accepted in total
(beyond
> "pre-approved" participants like scholars),
> * how many were
already accepted and have paid for it,
> * how the waitlist is managed
and
> * when one needs to start worrying about their registration not
succeeding?
>
> For example, the registration form said a background
check would be
> conducted but I have no idea how that's possible when
I only provided an
> email address. What if I chose the "wrong" email
address? I assumed
> someone would contact me to confirm if they can't
find out whose address
> it is, but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Speaking of
scholarships, personally I did not apply because I am happy
> to pay
for my own costs and I prefer if scholarships go to first-time
>
attendees, but I probably would have applied had I known it was the only
> chance to get in. People are probably making decisions right now
about
> their attendance (including booking or not booking
accommodation) which
> may turn out to be wrong later due to a lack of
correct information.
>
> Best,
> Federico
>
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Links:
------
[1]
https://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2026:Registration#FAQ
[2]
tel:+33142362624
[3] tel:+33638361332
[4] http://www.wikimedia.fr/
[5]
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1234174880
Indeed, just knowing a date when I should definitely cancel my bookings
would help.
Meanwhile I've noticed that there were some numbers published by
Bernadette Meehan and others on
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2026_open_letter_regarding_Wikimania>.
I'm not sure the alleged number of seats available through the general
registration (less than 350) was officially confirmed.
Reposting Bernadette's message:
«Thank you for raising these concerns, and for the vital work you do as
an Admin. I don’t take that work for granted. The Wikimedia projects
only exist because of editors like you, and supporting and growing this
community is one of my most important priorities as the new CEO of the
Wikimedia Foundation.
I know how much Wikimania means to so many of you, and I understand the
disappointment you’re feeling. It’s frustrating to want to be there and
not be able to attend.
Wikimania Paris sold out faster than anyone imagined. Even with a 30%
increase in in-person capacity from last year (2025) and similar
capacity to 2023 and 2024, tickets sold out quickly. While it’s
encouraging to see such strong interest from the community in coming
together, not being able to welcome everyone who wants to attend is not
the outcome we want, and we are sorry.
After receiving your letter, I spoke directly with Foundation colleagues
working closely with the Wikimania Paris organizers to understand if
more can be done. In the near term, the team is working to keep the
waitlist moving by removing duplicates and processing cancellations.
That work is ongoing.
They’re also exploring realistic ways to expand capacity, including
overflow spaces for plenary sessions and additional breakout rooms.
These options aren’t quick or simple, but conversations with the venue
and vendors are in progress to see what might be possible.
At the same time, we will explore potential modifications to better
prioritize members of the editing community who wish to participate in
person at future Wikimanias.
I also want to share that the current group of registrants for this year
reflects a strong mix of people. Roughly one third of registrants are
users with extended rights. A similar proportion have edit counts above
50,000, and 80% have more than 1,000 edits.
I know this doesn’t erase your disappointment. But I hope it helps
provide some clarity, and reassures you that we hear you and take your
feedback seriously. The team is working hard to make Wikimania Paris
and future Wikimanias as inclusive and accessible as possible.
Thank you again for your note, and for the work you continue to do.
BMeehan-WMF (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2026 (UTC)»
Best,
Federico
Il 20/04/26 11:38, Guillaume Paumier ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to second Nemo's request for timely updates. Unless I missed
> something (which is very possible), I haven't seen any official news since
> the announcement weeks ago that the in-person event was sold out.
>
> I imagine I am not the only one about to finalize my summer travel based on
> the current assumption that I can't attend Wikimania (something I am very
> disappointed about, but I can accept).
>
> If, by some twist of good fortune, some of us currently on the waitlist
> ended up getting an invitation to attend, learning about it after our other
> travel arrangements are made would be adding insult to injury.
>
> As Wikimedians, we are all aware of how harmful lack of reliable
> information can be. Something as simple as "if you haven't heard from us by
> April 30, you can be certain you won't be able to attend" would go a long
> way to reduce uncertainty.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2026 at 7:25 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) via Wikimania-l <
> wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> I am in the waitlist for Wikimania. (I pre-registered on April 2nd; I
>> had no idea there was a risk of it being sold out in a day.)
>>
>> I heard different rumours and speculation on whether Wikimania is
>> "really" sold out or significantly more seats will be freed once people
>> have to pay for the registration.
>>
>> Can we give some basic information for (aspiring) attendees, such as
>> * how many people are going to be accepted in total (beyond
>> "pre-approved" participants like scholars),
>> * how many were already accepted and have paid for it,
>> * how the waitlist is managed and
>> * when one needs to start worrying about their registration not succeeding?
>>
>> For example, the registration form said a background check would be
>> conducted but I have no idea how that's possible when I only provided an
>> email address. What if I chose the "wrong" email address? I assumed
>> someone would contact me to confirm if they can't find out whose address
>> it is, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>
>> Speaking of scholarships, personally I did not apply because I am happy
>> to pay for my own costs and I prefer if scholarships go to first-time
>> attendees, but I probably would have applied had I known it was the only
>> chance to get in. People are probably making decisions right now about
>> their attendance (including booking or not booking accommodation) which
>> may turn out to be wrong later due to a lack of correct information.
>>
>> Best,
>> Federico
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>
>
Hello,
I would like to second Nemo's request for timely updates. Unless I missed
something (which is very possible), I haven't seen any official news since
the announcement weeks ago that the in-person event was sold out.
I imagine I am not the only one about to finalize my summer travel based on
the current assumption that I can't attend Wikimania (something I am very
disappointed about, but I can accept).
If, by some twist of good fortune, some of us currently on the waitlist
ended up getting an invitation to attend, learning about it after our other
travel arrangements are made would be adding insult to injury.
As Wikimedians, we are all aware of how harmful lack of reliable
information can be. Something as simple as "if you haven't heard from us by
April 30, you can be certain you won't be able to attend" would go a long
way to reduce uncertainty.
Thanks,
On Sat, Apr 18, 2026 at 7:25 PM Federico Leva (Nemo) via Wikimania-l <
wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> I am in the waitlist for Wikimania. (I pre-registered on April 2nd; I
> had no idea there was a risk of it being sold out in a day.)
>
> I heard different rumours and speculation on whether Wikimania is
> "really" sold out or significantly more seats will be freed once people
> have to pay for the registration.
>
> Can we give some basic information for (aspiring) attendees, such as
> * how many people are going to be accepted in total (beyond
> "pre-approved" participants like scholars),
> * how many were already accepted and have paid for it,
> * how the waitlist is managed and
> * when one needs to start worrying about their registration not succeeding?
>
> For example, the registration form said a background check would be
> conducted but I have no idea how that's possible when I only provided an
> email address. What if I chose the "wrong" email address? I assumed
> someone would contact me to confirm if they can't find out whose address
> it is, but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Speaking of scholarships, personally I did not apply because I am happy
> to pay for my own costs and I prefer if scholarships go to first-time
> attendees, but I probably would have applied had I known it was the only
> chance to get in. People are probably making decisions right now about
> their attendance (including booking or not booking accommodation) which
> may turn out to be wrong later due to a lack of correct information.
>
> Best,
> Federico
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I did not receive a scholarship
to attend Wikimania, and I’m not able to cover the costs on my own,
including accommodation and other expenses. So attending in person may not
be possible for me.
Beast regards
Mahuta
On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 at 18:25, Federico Leva (Nemo) via Wikimania-l <
wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
> For those who handle their own accommodation for Wikimania, I suggest to
> book early, because around the same days in Paris there are some large
> events which may increase demand (including a BTS concert).
>
> Prices are not (yet) skyrocketing, from what I've seen so far, but some
> hotels now only accept prepaid bookings. Locals can probably provide
> better advice.
>
> Best,
> Federico
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimania-l mailing list -- wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimania-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
For those who handle their own accommodation for Wikimania, I suggest to
book early, because around the same days in Paris there are some large
events which may increase demand (including a BTS concert).
Prices are not (yet) skyrocketing, from what I've seen so far, but some
hotels now only accept prepaid bookings. Locals can probably provide
better advice.
Best,
Federico
Interesting to see that there is now a plan for a phased import and the
first 250 pages have been created.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/China_Judgments_Online_Preservation_Program…
I've only checked a couple pages and they look neat. Some of the layout
templates work better than I would have expected. I've not tested the
search functionality.
I've left a comment on the privacy complaint process on Meta.
Federico
Il 18/12/25 18:34, Federico Leva (Nemo) ha scritto:
> Il 06/12/25 13:11, mygreycooper(a)gmail.com ha scritto:
>> I would like to begin with some background, because many non-Chinese
>> Wikimedia contributors may not be aware of how significant CJO has
>> been for judicial transparency in China and how sharply access to it
>> has been reduced in recent years.
>
> Thanks for this context, it's super interesting!
>> For our purposes, the important point is this: CJO has removed or
>> restricted access to large portions of its historical archive,
>> including documents that were originally public, legally non-
>> copyrightable under Chinese law, and crucial for understanding the
>> functioning of China’s legal system. Many judgments that were once
>> easily verifiable on the official site can no longer be checked
>> against their original source. These documents are at risk of
>> disappearing entirely from public access.
>
> How strong is the presumption of copyright-ineligibility? What's the
> legal source for it and could it change in the future? (I'm clueless
> about the hierarchy of sources of law in China, sorry.)
>
>> Have other Wikisources hosted similarly massive, uniform corpora of
>> government or legal documents? How did you determine whether they fit
>> the mission of Wikisource? Were there concerns about overwhelming the
>> project or changing its character?
>
> Nothing as massive, but Italian Wikisource hosts court rulings, usually
> when they are especially news-worth. In those cases (think powerful
> politicians) there was always someone interested in getting them
> removed, but I don't recall whether there were official requests for
> redactions. However, we very intentionally do not copy all court rulings
> from official court databases, because they are known to be riddled with
> personal data. JurisWiki, a project from an experienced lawyer and free
> knowledge advocate of Italy (Simone Aliprandi), had to shut down for
> such issues after importing "just" 400k court rulings.
>
>> In our case, the source is an independent mirror of a government
>> website that is now selectively removing documents. While Wikimedia
>> projects have long preserved public domain government documents after
>> originals were taken down or censored, I am unsure how Wikisource
>> communities have handled this scenario in practice. Are mirrored
>> datasets acceptable when the original public source has been altered
>> or removed? How should we document provenance and authenticity for
>> future readers?
>
> I would say that relying on a mirror is *better* than using an official
> source, because you can have an additional layer of vetting, just like
> we do with PGDP.
>
> Are you in contact with the people in that database? Are they going to
> be responsive when you find out personal data that failed to be
> redacted? (This is a "when", not an "if". It's certain to happen.)
>
> What's the added benefit that a Wikisource copy would bring to that
> project? Find out, and focus on that. (Does it really need a
> comprehensive copy?)
>
>> If we proceed, how should we structure this corpus so the project
>> remains usable? Are there recommended practices for:
>> – titling, metadata, and Wikidata integration for legal documents,
>
> Wikidata should be immediately ruled out as it cannot stand this volume
> of documents.
>
> As for titles, categories etc., you should probably talk with Chinese
> practitioners who can tell you how people usually search these documents.
>
> Say the rulings are organised in tidy partitions of 100 different
> provinces (I'm inventing) and people usually search within each of them,
> then you can use those as prefixes and it will be easy to disambiguate.
>
>> – organizing millions of pages so they do not overwhelm categories and
>> search,
>> – mitigating strain on job queues, dumps, and indexing,
>
> This part I would say don't worry too much about, as WMF will let you
> know if it becomes a problem. Maybe don't come up with exceedingly
> esoteric templates and don't rely on DynamicPageList or other extensions
> known to be slow.
>
>>
>> 4. Political and archival importance
>> Wikisource has historically preserved documents at risk of censorship
>> or disappearance, whether due to authoritarian restrictions or
>> institutional neglect. Do other communities have experience with
>> politically sensitive archival projects where the preservation value
>> itself was a central motivation?
>
> Yes, see above, but not at this scale.
>
> Best,
> Federico
Il 21/03/26 20:55, Baibaswata Ray via Wikinews-l ha scritto:
> I am writing to inform you that the Board of Trustees may make their final
> decision around the week of March 30 and release the results via Meta and
> Diff.
The decision to close Wikinews was announced at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=30328680
(A reply mentions interest from WMNYC in helping.)
There is a page
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts
Two quick suggestions about a potential migration.
1) Look for help from others with experience migrating large wikis.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Grabbers were developed to migrate
Wikia wikis to independent hosts.
2) Think of governance early and do not reinvent the wheel. Especially
if there's an intention to reuse Wikimedia trademarks, it's probably
best to reuse an existing entity with experience in sort of things. The
entity hosting the project assets does not need to be the same as the
entity providing internet hosting. An obvious choice would be Software
for the Public Interest https://www.spi-inc.org/ given we have history
with them and they already host translatewiki.net.
Best,
Federico