I believe that, per Cyberpower in https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000061.html and https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000063.html and others, that was what was happening; as long as "maintainer" doesn't come with specific obligations on my time, I'm fine with it. Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Eugene Lee <leee(a)mit.edu> wrote:

My only hesitation is the lack of will to commit any time to the project. Progress on any project requires a time commitment, and we really don't need dead weight that isn't willing to commit any time. I don't know what our activity threshold should be at this point, but we certainly need one. T13 On Jul 3, 2015 12:25 PM, "MusikAnimal" <musikanimal(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I was actually hoping that L235 would be willing to say that he'd commit to a certain level of activity that is reasonable for him to maintain. Even a person assigned to bug fixes needs a certain level of activity to be productive. T13 On Jul 3, 2015 12:37 PM, "Maximilian Doerr" <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com> wrote:

That's sufficient for me. :) I'd be happy to point you to self learning PHP tutorials and testing resources if you need L235. :) T13 On Jul 3, 2015 2:55 PM, "L235 Wikipedia" <l235(a)l235.net> wrote:

T13, yep, I've already started on a few tutorials, though it'll be a while before I can actually contribute anything. Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr &lt;maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com > Then it's settled. L235 is now a member of xTools. But what about > Wbm1058. We should conclude our discussion about him. > > Cyberpower678 > English Wikipedia Account Creation Team > Mailing List Moderator > > On Jul 3, 2015, at 22:12, ShoeMaker Royality < > legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com> > That's sufficient for me. :) I'd be happy to point you to self learning > PHP tutorials and testing resources if you need L235. :) T13 > On Jul 3, 2015 2:55 PM, "L235 Wikipedia" &lt;l235(a)l235.net> >> Fine. >> >> Here's my commitment to the project: >> >> "Unless I give prior notice of inactivity (either directly to this >> project or by notice on my user/user talk page), I commit to responding to >> all emails addressed to me within three (3) days of receiving them. I also >> commit to maintaining a *minimum* average activity level of one hour per >> week (total; this includes voice chat, testing, sysadminning, and >> everything else that I may do for this project)." >> >> To be clear on my capabilities: >> >> - I'd like to think I'm smart and creative; >> - I tinker a lot on my private small cluster; >> - I have experience administering Linux and (shamefully) Windows >> servers; and >> - I'm generally familiar with the Labs environment. >> >> However: >> >> - I have never taken a CS course of any kind; >> - I am *not* a good programmer, and I have *never* written in PHP >> (though I plan to learn); >> - My contribution will likely be very limited, mainly to the sysadmin >> side (unless something mentors me on PHP or something) >> >> Just to be clear. (I'd like to think this is a "net positive" kind of >> thing; a little contribution with no possible negative is better than >> nothing.) >> >> Thanks, >> L235 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 >> >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 11:41 AM, ShoeMaker Royality < >> legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com>> >>> I was actually hoping that L235 would be willing to say that he'd commit >>> to a certain level of activity that is reasonable for him to maintain. >>> Even a person assigned to bug fixes needs a certain level of activity to be >>> productive. T13 >>> On Jul 3, 2015 12:37 PM, "Maximilian Doerr" &lt;maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>> >>>> While I see T13’s concerns, L235 can still assist in bug fixes. He >>>> shouldn’t necessarily be assigned a task for the rewrite but he could hang >>>> around and fix the current codeset or environment if needed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cyberpower678 >>>> >>>> English Wikipedia Account Creation Team >>>> >>>> Mailing List Moderator >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: >>>> xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *ShoeMaker Royality >>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2015 12:35 PM >>>> *To:* Discussion list for xTools >>>> *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Maintainer discussion >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My only hesitation is the lack of will to commit any time to the >>>> project. Progress on any project requires a time commitment, and we really >>>> don't need dead weight that isn't willing to commit any time. I don't know >>>> what our activity threshold should be at this point, but we certainly need >>>> one. T13 >>>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2015 12:25 PM, "MusikAnimal" &lt;musikanimal(a)gmail.com>>>> >>>> I see no issue with this. We need backing from Max before we can give >>>> the OK, but you've got mine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3 July 2015 at 11:19, L235 Wikipedia &lt;l235(a)l235.net>>>> >>>> I believe that, per Cyberpower in >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000061.html and >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000063.html and >>>> others, that was what was happening; as long as "maintainer" doesn't come >>>> with specific obligations on my time, I'm fine with it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> L235 >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Eugene Lee &lt;leee(a)mit.edu>>>> >>>> Do you want to be? >>>> >>>> >>>> --leee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM, L235 Wikipedia &lt;l235(a)l235.net>>>> >>>> May I ask if there’s been any further discussion on confirming my >>>> access to the servers and adding me as a maintainer on the -owner list? >>>> >>>> L235 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>> xTools mailing list >>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >> xTools mailing list >> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >> >> _______________________________________________ > Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon > xTools mailing list > xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools > > > _______________________________________________ > Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon > xTools mailing list > xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools > >

'k Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Maximilian Doerr &lt;maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com > I'll get you fully added tomorrow. > > Cyberpower678 > English Wikipedia Account Creation Team > Mailing List Moderator > > On Jul 3, 2015, at 22:18, L235 Wikipedia &lt;l235(a)l235.net> > T13, yep, I've already started on a few tutorials, though it'll be a while > before I can actually contribute anything. > > > > Thanks, > L235 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < > maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com> >> Then it's settled. L235 is now a member of xTools. But what about >> Wbm1058. We should conclude our discussion about him. >> >> Cyberpower678 >> English Wikipedia Account Creation Team >> Mailing List Moderator >> >> On Jul 3, 2015, at 22:12, ShoeMaker Royality < >> legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com>> >> That's sufficient for me. :) I'd be happy to point you to self learning >> PHP tutorials and testing resources if you need L235. :) T13 >> On Jul 3, 2015 2:55 PM, "L235 Wikipedia" &lt;l235(a)l235.net>> >>> Fine. >>> >>> Here's my commitment to the project: >>> >>> "Unless I give prior notice of inactivity (either directly to this >>> project or by notice on my user/user talk page), I commit to responding to >>> all emails addressed to me within three (3) days of receiving them. I also >>> commit to maintaining a *minimum* average activity level of one hour >>> per week (total; this includes voice chat, testing, sysadminning, and >>> everything else that I may do for this project)." >>> >>> To be clear on my capabilities: >>> >>> - I'd like to think I'm smart and creative; >>> - I tinker a lot on my private small cluster; >>> - I have experience administering Linux and (shamefully) Windows >>> servers; and >>> - I'm generally familiar with the Labs environment. >>> >>> However: >>> >>> - I have never taken a CS course of any kind; >>> - I am *not* a good programmer, and I have *never* written in PHP >>> (though I plan to learn); >>> - My contribution will likely be very limited, mainly to the >>> sysadmin side (unless something mentors me on PHP or something) >>> >>> Just to be clear. (I'd like to think this is a "net positive" kind of >>> thing; a little contribution with no possible negative is better than >>> nothing.) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> L235 >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 11:41 AM, ShoeMaker Royality < >>> legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com>>> >>>> I was actually hoping that L235 would be willing to say that he'd >>>> commit to a certain level of activity that is reasonable for him to >>>> maintain. Even a person assigned to bug fixes needs a certain level of >>>> activity to be productive. T13 >>>> On Jul 3, 2015 12:37 PM, "Maximilian Doerr" &lt;maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>> >>>>> While I see T13’s concerns, L235 can still assist in bug fixes. He >>>>> shouldn’t necessarily be assigned a task for the rewrite but he could hang >>>>> around and fix the current codeset or environment if needed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cyberpower678 >>>>> >>>>> English Wikipedia Account Creation Team >>>>> >>>>> Mailing List Moderator >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: >>>>> xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *ShoeMaker Royality >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2015 12:35 PM >>>>> *To:* Discussion list for xTools >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Maintainer discussion >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My only hesitation is the lack of will to commit any time to the >>>>> project. Progress on any project requires a time commitment, and we really >>>>> don't need dead weight that isn't willing to commit any time. I don't know >>>>> what our activity threshold should be at this point, but we certainly need >>>>> one. T13 >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 3, 2015 12:25 PM, "MusikAnimal" &lt;musikanimal(a)gmail.com>>>>> >>>>> I see no issue with this. We need backing from Max before we can give >>>>> the OK, but you've got mine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 July 2015 at 11:19, L235 Wikipedia &lt;l235(a)l235.net>>>>> >>>>> I believe that, per Cyberpower in >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000061.html >>>>> and https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xtools/2015-June/000063.html >>>>> and others, that was what was happening; as long as "maintainer" doesn't >>>>> come with specific obligations on my time, I'm fine with it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> L235 >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Eugene Lee &lt;leee(a)mit.edu>>>>> >>>>> Do you want to be? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --leee >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM, L235 Wikipedia &lt;l235(a)l235.net>>>>> >>>>> May I ask if there’s been any further discussion on confirming my >>>>> access to the servers and adding me as a maintainer on the -owner list? >>>>> >>>>> L235 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>>> xTools mailing list >>>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>>> xTools mailing list >>>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>>> xTools mailing list >>>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>>> xTools mailing list >>>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>>> xTools mailing list >>>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>>> xTools mailing list >>>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >>> xTools mailing list >>> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >> xTools mailing list >> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon >> xTools mailing list >> xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon > xTools mailing list > xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools > > > _______________________________________________ > Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon > xTools mailing list > xTools(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools > >