Ah okay so it looks like I've taken an extended cat nap at the wrong time.

1. Correct Max buddy.

2. Joseve05a, what are you doing? :^)

3. L235 - no worries, I knew you'd do that and I'm not worried about you. I'd like to see how xtools run first round when T13 (?) wrenches the existing codebase into shape. I think it'll be a better idea to deploy amongst 4 m1.mediums and load balance amongst them.

4. Joseve05a, make a less messy signature =]

5. Yeah Max, of course it is! xtools has been down for so long.

6. You're in bastion with your keys thanks to your client but you can't get into an instance because "keys are difficult if you've never used them before". Please see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access, and especially take a good look at using ProxyCommand. This is why people prefer a sane OS like OS X or any nix variant. GUIs are just... messy. =]

7. T13, remember! There's a reply-all button that we all love to use. =]

8. Yes, standard ports all around.

9. L235, I'm okay with you sticking around. It's also nice to have level-headed and adept outsiders take a good look for sanity checks.

10. Max buddy, you're not properly using your keys to access the instance.

11. ... What? Who's ShoeMaker Royality? That's... a pretty interesting name to use. I've yet to encounter "royality". Nice username though.

12. T13 - use an ssh client that supports keys, and look into ProxyCommand or agent forwarding. The latter is a Bad Idea, especially if you're using labs keys for other things.

13. T13 - sure, one could always port forward port 22. It would be quite unwise of you to do that, especially in a production environment like labs. When properly done, the security afforded is worth the pain. For Labs, it is.

14. Max, I think you're the only one debating L235's stay =]

15. L235 is right. Do you know the definition of the word bastion? Think of it as a... VPN server, for lack of a better phrase.

fin.

--leee

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

We need plenty of server maintainers and code maintainers.  In case Elee is absent, someone else can step in if need be.

 

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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:57 PM

To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved

 

T13, you definitely can't connect to "xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs" directly. At a high level, you connect to the open-to-the-internet host at bastion.wmflabs.org, and that is a server behind the WMFLabs firewall that has permissions to connect to the webservers. I don't personally use that client, but https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access provides good advice, and someone in #wikimedia-labs can provide you with specifics.

 

Cyberpower, that is understood, though I'm not certain what I'm being voted in for. I'm fine with being a maintainer, but I don't plan on writing code or doing much like that; I can administrate servers if needed but I'd like to mainly observe and suggest; I also will likely "abstain" on almost all votes/etc.

Thanks,

L235

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235

 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

I vote to add L235, provided L235 honors that we operate on a consensus here too.  All major changes should be discussed, including adding or expelling maintainers.

 

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved

 

Cyberpower, yes. No formal training, but I'm decent.

 

Folks, you need to connect to bastion first, and then connect to xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs. You can't SSH to the webservers directly; that is a gigantic security risk.

Thanks,

L235

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235

 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:28 PM, ShoeMaker Royality <legend.of.the.red.dragon@gmail.com> wrote:

I can't connect either ftr.

See attached screenshot.

On Jun 29, 2015 7:16 PM, "Maximilian Doerr" <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

So you’re saying you have Linux experience?

 

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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:10 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved

 

Actually, I suppose I did work on production on a project called the "Orion Belt Coalition", which was a cryptocurrency-related project (and is now down), but I only spent about 30 hours working on that, and a lot of that time was cursing some sysadmins who had decided to use Windows Server for some parts of it instead of a nice Ubuntu LAMP stack or similar. And I also designed some other stuff for cryptocurrency, etc, but that didn't have too much to do with PHP/JavaScript.

Thanks,

L235

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235

 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:01 PM, L235 Wikipedia <lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:

Cyberpower, without screenshots and/or logs, I can't help you. I'm not too familiar with PuTTY though because I mainly use GNU/Linux and other Unix-like operating systems with native ssh.

 

T13, my "qualifications and experiences" are basically "I read stuff on the Internet and I tinker and optimize on my small cluster"; nothing professionally.

 

L235 (mobile)

On Monday, June 29, 2015, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:

I’d still prefer a discussion.  I haven’t revoked yet because I don’t want to be a dick.  As for SSHing in, I followed the instructions and keep getting “Server unexpectedly closed network connection”

 

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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:46 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved

 

T13, host is xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs, port is default 22.

 

FYI, since it looks like no one actually has objections to me on the project and/or no one has revoked my access even though everyone on this list has the technical power to do that, I'm going to consider myself having permission to have read access to server files.

Thanks,

L235

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235

 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Mr. Donald J. Fortier II <technical_13@yahoo.com> wrote:

Not quite, he'll also need host/port and any additional specific information for our instance. I'm assuming that our instance will use the same key that we use for toollabs that's on wikitech.wikimedia.org   T13 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"L235 Wikipedia" <lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com> Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 18:40 Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved Cyberpower, see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access and https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Putty; I assume that'll answer your questions? Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235   On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote: Not working with PuTTY or Bastion.   Can someone give me a step by step?  I’m horrible with linux servers.  That’s why we have Elee. :p   Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator   From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:35 PM To: Discussion list for xTools Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved   Cyberpower, ssh xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235   On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote: This list is catching attention fast. :p  On topic, I’m in bastion, but how come I can’t get in to xtools-lb?   Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator   From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jonatan Svensson Glad Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:31 PM To: xtools@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved   T13: I'm not on xTools, just reading and responding to the pipermails.   Jonatan Svensson Glad President of SSU Tyresö and Editor on Wikipedia +46 (0)760-44 24 44  | gladjonatan@outlook.com       All views and opinions expressed in this email message are the personal opinions of the author and do not represent those of any organization which might be related to this message. No liability can be held for any damages, however caused, to any recipients of this message. _______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools   _______________________________________________ Maintainers: Cyberpower678, Technical 13, MusikAnimal, Elee, Nakon xTools mailing list xTools@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/xtools

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