On 5 Jul, 2015, at 4:00 pm, Ancheta Wis
<tekftu4q(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Kudpung and TacPol and everyone who can add to the solution, I could use some more
information about the database servers :
I draw your attention to the following lines 132, 598, and 619 in
What bothers is some hard-coded data in what I presume is in the xTools production code
line 131 //Init permanent connection to tools-db
line 132 $dbrtools = $this->loadDatabase(null, null, "tools");
line 598 public function loadDatabase( $lang, $wiki, $dbnameIn=null) {
line 605 >>> $server = "p:".$dbnameIn.".labsdb";
line 615 // $server = "p:s2.labsdb";
line 619 $server = "c2.labsdb"; //$dbnameIn.".labsdb";
line 1138 class Database2{
My question is "Are these accurate?". Is this in production?
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:50 PM, TaqPol
<taqpol.wiki(a)icloud.com> wrote:
Hi,
I presume this response is directed to myself.
I cannot help but feel that you are intrinsically against the participation of younger
developers, considering you said that you does not "believe that high school
students and freshmen will be able to wrest themselves from their school athletics and
homework to devote sufficient time to these pressing issues". I emphasise that
"I do have until late September free and plan to commit more time that", as I
wrote in my previous message. This means that I can devote a good amount of time for
xTools as I am currently on holiday and don't have athletics and homework to juggle
until early October.
Put things simply, I can put in quite a lot of time within a timeframe of days and weeks,
but things are a lot more uncertain within a timeframe of months and years.
Cheers,
TaqPol
> On Jul 05, 2015, at 07:30 AM, Chris <cs(a)edubkk.org> wrote:
>
> I see words being used such as ‘September’ and ‘October’. I stress again that the
task of getting these tools up and running is urgent and that I do not believe that high
school students and freshmen will be able to wrest themselves from their school athletics
and homework to devote sufficient time to these pressing issues. We have a time frame of
days at this stage - not weeks or months.If X-Tools is a global project, I’ll just remind
everyone:
>
> 'Wikimedia Labs was designed to give volunteer software developers a place to
write and test software for WMF operations with the goal being to increase the volunteers
helping maintain the WMF's infrastructure. It was opened for beta testing to a limited
number of users in October 2011. After several months of testing, the service was opened
to the general public in April 2012.’ (Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_Labs)
>
> 'Because of the importance of toolserver tools and the difficulty in maintaining
the toolserver infrastructure, it was decided that a move to a larger organization would
be good, decommissioning the current toolserver. WMDE has committed to funding and
maintaining the toolserver until all users have had a sufficient chance to move to the new
system. […] In February 2013, the Wikimedia Foundation contracted Marc-André Pelletier to
provide assistance to tool/bot authors in migrating their tools and bots to the Wikimedia
Labs' servers. A help page for migrating has been setup at wikitech:User:Magnus
Manske/Migrating from toolserver with helpful advice. General information may be found at
mw:Wikimedia Labs/Migration of Toolserver tools. […] the full-scale migration process
began in June 2013 and expected to be complete by December 2013 with everything completed
by June 2014 when items on the toolserver will be deleted. Final decommissioning of the
toolserver was tentatively scheduled to be complete by December 2014.
>
> We are now in the middle of 2015.
>
> Kudpung
>
>> On 5Jul, 2015, at 13:03, Ancheta Wis <tekftu4q(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> C678, Kudpung, L235, MusikAnimal, T13, Hedonil, TParis, X ...
>>
>> I am trying to debug just how far the database connection, etc., is getting. In
my experience, once a database query is actually returning values, there is no reason the
whole-stitched-together app cannot work. It appears there is a missing resource needed to
make a connection.
>>
>> I have to say that once something like
[
http://php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-connect.php this mysql snippet] works for xTools,
I can fade out of this picture.
>>
>> --[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ancheta_Wis Ancheta]
>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 7:48 PM, ShoeMaker Royality
<legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On which wiki? xTools is a global project. I honestly don't care much
about how much a specific community trusts a developer or not. As long as the other team
members trust the user, then that's not a concern of mine. T13
>>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2015 10:20 PM, "L235 Wikipedia" <l235(a)l235.net>
wrote:
>>>> Regarding TaqPol, my largest concern is the level of trust you currently
have on-wiki. Your fiftieth edit was a month and a half ago, and though becoming a
maintainer on xtools is certainly nothing like RfA, I'd like to think that some level
of community trust should be needed. (This isn't an oppose, and I'm not making
this a formal opinion, just something for the other maintainers to keep in mind.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> L235
>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Maximilian Doerr
<maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> The idea of voice/video conferencing is appealing, but likely not
feasible with everyone having different schedules and timezones. So email and IRC will
have to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cyberpower678
>>>>>
>>>>> English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing List Moderator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of ShoeMaker Royality
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 10:04 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion list for xTools
>>>>> Subject: Re: [xTools] Organisation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point, after the terrorization onwiki, video/voice
doesn't work for me. I've no interest in participating in that. I'm willing to
listen and view, but only share via text at this point. I hope everyone can understand
and respect my position on that. T13
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2015 9:59 PM, "L235 Wikipedia"
<l235(a)l235.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I support the video/voice conferencing, but I often work in an
environment where it's important to be quiet, so I hope it's fine if I provide my
(limited, due to limited/nonexistent PHP skills) input over text and mainly listen. My
commitment of one hour a week was a minimum; I plan/hope to spend more time on the
project.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> L235
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:55 PM, ShoeMaker Royality
<legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally intend to dedicate 3 or 4 full days a week to
development once I get back on top of my classes next week. It'll likely take me a
few hours to get accommodated with our new environment, but I should be able to quick
migrate tools in one at a time once I am familiar. Getting the first tool set ul and the
connection to the database will be the hardest part, the rest will fall into place easily
and be cake work. T13
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2015 9:47 PM, "Chris" <cs(a)edubkk.org>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to admit that while the organisation and coordination
of the work is in every way as important as getting these essential tools back up and
running, unlike writing new articles for Wikipedia , time is not on our side. I’m
therefore rater hesitant with offers of help that due to school can only inject one or two
hours a week into the project. That’s partly what got us into this mess in the first
place.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that not everyone is like me: over 65 , retired, and has
time on their hands, but I think we should be looking at a dedication of two or three
complete evenings a week until the job is done. Public holidays should be providing more
time rather than being a reason to take leave from the urgency.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, addressing the advantages of video conferencing again, I am in
exactly the opposite time zone to the whole of the USA which means I often have to chat in
what is the middle of the night here in Thailand. I think that’s also the least anyone
should be prepared to do for multi-zone, multi-cultural Wikipedia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kudpung
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4Jul, 2015, at 22:15, L235 Wikipedia <l235(a)l235.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No objections from me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> L235
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:54 AM, TaqPol <taqpol.wiki(a)icloud.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do understand and I would be okay with that as long as it is the
consensus of the group. I have created a new GitHub account @TaqPol-wiki as I’d prefer to
separate this account from the one I used for LxCenter and my personal projects.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m glad that my limited availability is okay with you. I usually can
contribute more than that but the amount of work I have for university is unpredictable so
I don’t really want to make commitments that I cannot meet.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> TaqPol
>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TaqPol
>>>>>
>>>>> TaqPol.wiki(a)icloud.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4 Jul, 2015, at 10:39 pm, MusikAnimal
<musikanimal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks good, but note we may not necessarily be using a framework, it
seems (getting conflicting recommendations), but certainly a templating engine of sorts.
We are open to all ideas, but would you be okay working with something other than Laravel
if it came down to it? Also, do you have a GitHub account?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for also being upfront about your availability. It's
all volunteer work and even small contributions here and there are helpful and
appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 4, 2015 08:41, "Maximilian Doerr"
<maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> He’s got my thumbs up. Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cyberpower678
>>>>>
>>>>> English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
>>>>>
>>>>> Mailing List Moderator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of TaqPol
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:10 AM
>>>>> To: xtools(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>> Subject: [xTools] TaqPol - PHP Developer & Sysadmin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am writing in response to the call of developers for xTools on
Wikipedia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have previously been a Core member in the LxCenter team, which
released the open source web hosting control panel Kloxo and the VPS control panel
HyperVM. I work as both a PHP developer and a sysadmin there, as I also find sponsorship
on behalf of LxCenter and manages the sponsored server although another developer manages
the main web server etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I currently develop with Laravel, although for simpler application I
use packages from Packgist (e.g. Plates) and I personally think Laravel would be the best
way to go, considering the a MVC implementation is desirable and it provides many useful
functions e.g. an excellent ORM, code injection interface and template engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am afraid I don’t have 10-15 years of experience and I self-learnt
PHP. That being said, I am very willing to learn new stuffs. I am willing to commit to the
project. I generally respond to messages in 24 hours and can commit for at least 2 hours
per week during term time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> TaqPol
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TaqPol
>>>>>
>>>>> TaqPol.wiki(a)icloud.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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