I don't see it that way, not quite anyways. We currently have enough open slots for that, but there will be a point where there will just be too many cooks in the kitchen and managing who is doing what will be a hassle. We're not there yet, but I see it happening. That's the kind of situation where we have a nickel holding up a dollar. T13
That is like saying you only collect dollars, and leave the pennies alone. But if you collect enough pennies you have a dollar again. The more people we recruit that can spare at least an hour the more that will get done.
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Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 9:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [xTools] Organisation
I think we need to admit that while the organisation and coordination of the work is in every way as important as getting these essential tools back up and running, unlike writing new articles for Wikipedia , time is not on our side. I’m therefore rater hesitant with offers of help that due to school can only inject one or two hours a week into the project. That’s partly what got us into this mess in the first place.
I realise that not everyone is like me: over 65 , retired, and has time on their hands, but I think we should be looking at a dedication of two or three complete evenings a week until the job is done. Public holidays should be providing more time rather than being a reason to take leave from the urgency.
Also, addressing the advantages of video conferencing again, I am in exactly the opposite time zone to the whole of the USA which means I often have to chat in what is the middle of the night here in Thailand. I think that’s also the least anyone should be prepared to do for multi-zone, multi-cultural Wikipedia.
Kudpung
On 4Jul, 2015, at 22:15, L235 Wikipedia <l235@l235.net> wrote:
No objections from me.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 9:54 AM, TaqPol <taqpol.wiki@icloud.com> wrote:
Hi,
I do understand and I would be okay with that as long as it is the consensus of the group. I have created a new GitHub account @TaqPol-wiki as I’d prefer to separate this account from the one I used for LxCenter and my personal projects.
I’m glad that my limited availability is okay with you. I usually can contribute more than that but the amount of work I have for university is unpredictable so I don’t really want to make commitments that I cannot meet.
Best wishes,
On 4 Jul, 2015, at 10:39 pm, MusikAnimal <musikanimal@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks good, but note we may not necessarily be using a framework, it seems (getting conflicting recommendations), but certainly a templating engine of sorts. We are open to all ideas, but would you be okay working with something other than Laravel if it came down to it? Also, do you have a GitHub account?
Thank you for also being upfront about your availability. It's all volunteer work and even small contributions here and there are helpful and appreciated.
On Jul 4, 2015 08:41, "Maximilian Doerr" <maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
He’s got my thumbs up. Any objections?
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From: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of TaqPol
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 6:10 AM
To: xtools@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [xTools] TaqPol - PHP Developer & Sysadmin
Hello,
I am writing in response to the call of developers for xTools on Wikipedia.
I have previously been a Core member in the LxCenter team, which released the open source web hosting control panel Kloxo and the VPS control panel HyperVM. I work as both a PHP developer and a sysadmin there, as I also find sponsorship on behalf of LxCenter and manages the sponsored server although another developer manages the main web server etc.
I currently develop with Laravel, although for simpler application I use packages from Packgist (e.g. Plates) and I personally think Laravel would be the best way to go, considering the a MVC implementation is desirable and it provides many useful functions e.g. an excellent ORM, code injection interface and template engine.
I am afraid I don’t have 10-15 years of experience and I self-learnt PHP. That being said, I am very willing to learn new stuffs. I am willing to commit to the project. I generally respond to messages in 24 hours and can commit for at least 2 hours per week during term time.
Best wishes,
TaqPol
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