I’ll see if I can get around to it later today or tomorrow. These tools, especially
articleinfo, need to get back up.
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of ShoeMaker Royality
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:39 AM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
I'll work on tools code in a couple weeks. Just too busy with midterms right now.
On the topic of signatures, I generally dislike them... period. I know my mobile clients
add one, and it's not worth the effort to make those go away and I wouldn't expect
others to for that kind of one liner.
I still don't understand networking and linux very well either. I took a class, so
can kinda get around inside, but don't know much about what everything is or how
things work. Would love to learn more, but I need small chunks for each thing and
practice.
I do use reply all. There were a couple messages I intentionally sent to just certain
people, and I'm not upset they replied to the group quoting.
I'm ShoeMaker (
http://ddowiki.com/page/User:ShoeMaker -
http://enwp.org/User:ShoeMaker)
I'll have to look more into ConnectBot on that. I use PuTTY on my home computer, and
that'll be fine.
Max isn't the only one. I have my reservations as well. My biggest issue was that it
wasn't discussed first and isn't following our protocol. I'm also hesitant
with the lack of experience. Need to think about it more.
Anyways, coffee time. T13
On Jun 30, 2015 4:36 AM, "Eugene Lee" <leee(a)mit.edu> wrote:
Ah okay so it looks like I've taken an extended cat nap at the wrong time.
1. Correct Max buddy.
2. Joseve05a, what are you doing? :^)
3. L235 - no worries, I knew you'd do that and I'm not worried about you. I'd
like to see how xtools run first round when T13 (?) wrenches the existing codebase into
shape. I think it'll be a better idea to deploy amongst 4 m1.mediums and load balance
amongst them.
4. Joseve05a, make a less messy signature =]
5. Yeah Max, of course it is! xtools has been down for so long.
6. You're in bastion with your keys thanks to your client but you can't get into
an instance because "keys are difficult if you've never used them before".
Please see
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access, and especially take a good
look at using ProxyCommand. This is why people prefer a sane OS like OS X or any nix
variant. GUIs are just... messy. =]
7. T13, remember! There's a reply-all button that we all love to use. =]
8. Yes, standard ports all around.
9. L235, I'm okay with you sticking around. It's also nice to have level-headed
and adept outsiders take a good look for sanity checks.
10. Max buddy, you're not properly using your keys to access the instance.
11. ... What? Who's ShoeMaker Royality? That's... a pretty interesting name to
use. I've yet to encounter "royality". Nice username though.
12. T13 - use an ssh client that supports keys, and look into ProxyCommand or agent
forwarding. The latter is a Bad Idea, especially if you're using labs keys for other
things.
13. T13 - sure, one could always port forward port 22. It would be quite unwise of you to
do that, especially in a production environment like labs. When properly done, the
security afforded is worth the pain. For Labs, it is.
14. Max, I think you're the only one debating L235's stay =]
15. L235 is right. Do you know the definition of the word bastion? Think of it as a... VPN
server, for lack of a better phrase.
fin.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
We need plenty of server maintainers and code maintainers. In case Elee is absent,
someone else can step in if need be.
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:57 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
T13, you definitely can't connect to "xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs"
directly. At a high level, you connect to the open-to-the-internet host at
bastion.wmflabs.org, and that is a server behind the WMFLabs firewall that has permissions
to connect to the webservers. I don't personally use that client, but
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access provides good advice, and someone in
#wikimedia-labs can provide you with specifics.
Cyberpower, that is understood, though I'm not certain what I'm being voted in
for. I'm fine with being a maintainer, but I don't plan on writing code or doing
much like that; I can administrate servers if needed but I'd like to mainly observe
and suggest; I also will likely "abstain" on almost all votes/etc.
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I vote to add L235, provided L235 honors that we operate on a consensus here too. All
major changes should be discussed, including adding or expelling maintainers.
Cyberpower678
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:35 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
Cyberpower, yes. No formal training, but I'm decent.
Folks, you need to connect to bastion first, and then connect to
xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs. You can't SSH to the webservers directly; that
is a gigantic security risk.
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:28 PM, ShoeMaker Royality
<legend.of.the.red.dragon(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I can't connect either ftr.
See attached screenshot.
On Jun 29, 2015 7:16 PM, "Maximilian Doerr" <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
So you’re saying you have Linux experience?
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 7:10 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
Actually, I suppose I did work on production on a project called the "Orion Belt
Coalition", which was a cryptocurrency-related project (and is now down), but I only
spent about 30 hours working on that, and a lot of that time was cursing some sysadmins
who had decided to use Windows Server for some parts of it instead of a nice Ubuntu LAMP
stack or similar. And I also designed some other stuff for cryptocurrency, etc, but that
didn't have too much to do with PHP/JavaScript.
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:01 PM, L235 Wikipedia <lixxx235wikipedia(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Cyberpower, without screenshots and/or logs, I can't help you. I'm not too
familiar with PuTTY though because I mainly use GNU/Linux and other Unix-like operating
systems with native ssh.
T13, my "qualifications and experiences" are basically "I read stuff on the
Internet and I tinker and optimize on my small cluster"; nothing professionally.
L235 (mobile)
On Monday, June 29, 2015, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I’d still prefer a discussion. I haven’t revoked yet because I don’t want to be a dick.
As for SSHing in, I followed the instructions and keep getting “Server unexpectedly closed
network connection”
Cyberpower678
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From: xtools-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On
Behalf Of L235 Wikipedia
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:46 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
T13, host is xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs, port is default 22.
FYI, since it looks like no one actually has objections to me on the project and/or no one
has revoked my access even though everyone on this list has the technical power to do
that, I'm going to consider myself having permission to have read access to server
files.
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Mr. Donald J. Fortier II <technical_13(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
Not quite, he'll also need host/port and any additional specific information for our
instance. I'm assuming that our instance will use the same key that we use for
toollabs that's on
wikitech.wikimedia.org
T13
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From:"L235 Wikipedia" <lixxx235wikipedia(a)gmail.com>
Date:Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 18:40
Subject:Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
Cyberpower, see
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access and
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Putty; I assume that'll answer your
questions?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Not working with PuTTY or Bastion. Can someone give me a step by step? I’m horrible
with linux servers. That’s why we have Elee. :p
Cyberpower678
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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 6:35 PM
To: Discussion list for xTools
Subject: Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
Cyberpower, ssh xtools-legacy-1.xtools.eqiad.wmflabs
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
This list is catching attention fast. :p On topic, I’m in bastion, but how come I can’t
get in to xtools-lb?
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T13: I'm not on xTools, just reading and responding to the pipermails.
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