I’m interested in helping the image of WiRs on Wikimedia and making the meta page more
accurate. I’m kind of confused about if Meta needs in-line sources or not.
-Rachel
From: Željko Blaće <zblace(a)mi2.hr>
Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 11:37 AM
To: Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network <wren(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Wren] Re: WiR and WREN visibility on Wikipedias and Wikimedia
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 6:37 PM Andrew Lih
<andrew.lih@gmail.com<mailto:andrew.lih@gmail.com>> wrote:
Actually, this might be a good time to implement what we had talked about for the last
year which is a "statement of WIR princples" that might be different than the
meta page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedian_in_residence
Cool. Statement of WIR principles sounds good, but might be a goal for a dedicated 2022
worksession?
In fact, I can already see that I don't fit some of what the meta page describes,
which may focus on a pre-Wikdata definition of what a WIR does.
Indeed and decentering Wikipedia(n)s remains to be a challenge regardless of Commons and
Wikidata prominence.
The difficulty in writing about WIR is that it may or may not be in line with a particular
community's conflict of interest or paid editing policies. For example, French and
Italian accept paid editors (even from for-profit corporate entities) quite openly,
whereas some other communities (like English Wikipedia) would view them very unfavorably.
So I'm open to ideas on what we might do to advocate for WIR in particular
communities. It will be challenging to come up with just one page to capture all that.
I understand, but maybe we do not need to inscribe all precisely and in elaborate, rather
point in direction of that 'in Residence' is not only about financial relations
(even art residencies range from paid to those you have to pay)...rather - as WREN is
supporting each other and being productive, informative and inspirational in novel ways.
Anyone want to take on this together? I can commit to writing a lot on comparisons with
art residencies as well experienced on it.
Here's a talk from 2014 Wikimania that discussed some of these dynamics, and also had
some case studies of paid editing:
https://thewikipedian.net/2014/08/12/wikimania-2014-we-needed-to-talk-about…
Cool. Will check out with recording
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc9YgFm2eso
Anyone else?
-Andrew
On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 9:15 PM Željko Blaće
<zblace@mi2.hr<mailto:zblace@mi2.hr>> wrote:
Dear All -
Last December 6th special meeting event
on Wikipedia and NFT with a few invited guests
made me think we could do meeting that are relevant
beyond our immediate scope and be more visible...
...but also last week I was almost topic-banned
on HR Wikipedia (Croatian) as none of the Admins knew
what Wikimedian in Residence is and were thinking
it is either paid editing or problematic self-promotion
(when I was actually unemployed :-)))
So after a successful event and a monthly HR drama,
I am thinking what can we do better to increase
WiR and WREN visibility on Wikipedia and Wikimedia.
For people coming from most of the arts the notion of
artist-in-residence is super familiar and easy to relate to,
but average Wikipedian (if there is such thing)
has very few chances to come across this term
as well as to grasp what Wikimedian in Residence is.
Only 27 Wikipedia instances have articles on WiRs
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3809586
What could be good strategies to change that?
15 years ago (so we missed it by a week)
on December 13, 2006 we got this text as a start
http://original-research.blogspot.com/2006/12/wikipedian-in-residence-propo…
Maybe we can draft something short quickly today
and just pass it on later in the day to Wikimedia-L
and potentially to the DIFF Blog of WMF?
Elsewhere?
Best Z
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