--- cookfire <cookfire(a)softhome.net> wrote:
Gerard.Meijssen schreef:
>Hoi,
>I have a 8878 big botanical glossary that I want to
>add to the wiktionary. I already have asked Andre
>Engels to help me out with preparing the upload and
>helping me out with doing things more easily aided
>by programs.
>
>However some words are capitalised and some are not
>as they should be. I do not want to upload all
these
>words before the capitalisation has been turned
off
>for nl:wiktionary. It is just to much work to have
>it corrected at a later date.
>
>At this moment the slim majority that prevents
>en:wiktionary to forego first letter capitalisation
>are some IP-numbers that have it for the Nayes.
This
>"democratic" process prevents both
nl:wiktionary
and
>de:wiktionary from having the requested
>capitalisation turned off. In the discussions on
en:
>it is stated that each project has the choise to
>decide on this issue. This is however not the case
>as the programmers want to have all wiktionaries
the
same way.
In order to have some more discussion on the
subject, I send this message both to the wiktionary
and wikitech list. I also send it to Jimbo Wales as
he does not monitor the wiktionary list afaik. (I
spoke with him on sunday..). Please, let us discuss
this issue. The nl:wiktionary is on 3123 words, we
will already have a big job to get things working
again after the transfer. With time this will only
increase and again, I will not upload the glossary
and have to do these eventually as well.
Questions:
*How are we goint to resolve this issue?
*How can we turn capitalisation off, preferably in
a fased way?
*Are there ways to help out with programs?
*How long are we going to discuss this issue before
coming to a workable decision. NB not only for the
wiktionaries but also the system maintenance?
Thanks,
GerardM
I would also like to see things moving regarding
capitalisation. Most of the regular contributors on
the English Wiktionary are in favor of switching off
the first letter capitalisation for the
Wiktionaries. As far as the contributors of the
English Wiktionary are concerned, they cannot make
decisions that impact other Wiktionaries, or at
least it shouldn't be this way. It is unfortunate
that it does.
So let's finally get things right and switch off
capitalisation. The people that have contributed to
the English Wiktionary from the beginning have been
wanting to ask this from the beginning as well. We
were told that we were going to have to make do with
software as it was written for the encyclopedia
though, so we did. Now that it became possible, it
should also be done.
I and a couple of the real developers discussed the
various issues and proposed techniques for improving
the capitalisation of Wiki titles as requested by the
various "factions" (: including what non-English
Wiktionaries or at least some of their vocal users
would like.
I have already experimented with the codebase to come
at this problem in various ways, and Jamesday posted a
summary of what we talked about on IRC at
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/case-sensitivity_vote
We would like to hear feedback and clarifications
from everybody with your various viewpoints in this
talk page please.
Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail)
Jo
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