Yes agree. Only those who where community appointed by the community as admins and are still interested in being involved should be handed the admin tools. James Heilman On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qayyum(a)hotmail.com> wrote: Recently, I learned that Internet Brand employes working on WT website as admins recently appointed few new admins on the site without any community consensus. Giving admin privileges to those new WT admins at new WV website is a very bad idea... Saqib English Wikivoyage From: philippe(a)wikimedia.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:01:06 -0500 To: wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikivoyage-l] Initial userrights Hi everyone, In the migration process, one of the questions that has come up is the initial assignment of the administrator rights. Our current plan is to assign administrator rights to anyone who currently has them on the legacy Wikivoyage wiki (and I'm certainly open to expanding that to include the legacy Wikitravel wiki, I just don't know how many people are in that group that aren't already wikivoyage administrators). I wanted to toss that out as a discussion point here and see what the general feeling was about that as an opening position? Am I way off base? Is there something else that would work better? My main interest here is a lightweight system that will work to get the project launched. pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 philippe(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l

Sure, but you'll have to combine WT's and WV's policies, and fit them within the global wikimedia-wide policies (of which there are few, mainly to deal with userrights and crosswiki issues). I'm thinking more of the smaller projects rather than the main ones. For example the Italian wikivoyage has several of the policy pages written in German, which clearly should be translated/modified when moved over, as one can hardly have a policy in a language different from the one the wiki is written in. Snowolf

Folks, I do submit that we are overthinking this. We can make the process as complex as we like, but it is not going to affect the end result or get us any additional benefits. On the English Wikivoyage, almost everyone who is an admin has been elected when he or she was at Wikitravel. A couple were elected later and I believe that a couple have the privilege for technical reasons. All of them should get carried over as it is - they have all received community approval. There are a few Wikitravel admins (not IB admins) who have not created accounts on Wikivoyage or have not asked for admin privileges, probably because of laziness or whatever. I'd expect it isn't going to be worth the effort for the WMF guys to identify them and make them sysops (and if they haven't even created accounts, how'd you do that?) But in terms of policy, I'd expect the community to decide that anyone who was an admin at Wikitravel just needs to ask and they will get privileges here as well. (Obviously, none of this is going to apply to the IB employees who made themselves admins, or to any admin "elected" by the current rump community there) The above should apply to all the language versions other than German and Italian that we are launching. The ones we are incubating, that is another story. Temporary sysoping etc. can be done there. The German and Italian Wikivoyages are an even simpler case. Everyone who is an admin now should simply continue. On 23 October 2012 23:31, Philippe Beaudette &lt;philippe(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:philippe@wikimedia.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, In the migration process, one of the questions that has come up is the initial assignment of the administrator rights. Our current plan is to assign administrator rights to anyone who currently has them on the legacy Wikivoyage wiki (and I'm certainly open to expanding that to include the legacy Wikitravel wiki, I just don't know how many people are in that group that aren't already wikivoyage administrators). I wanted to toss that out as a discussion point here and see what the general feeling was about that as an opening position? Am I way off base? Is there something else that would work better? My main interest here is a lightweight system that will work to get the project launched. pb ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 philippe(a)wikimedia.org <mailto:philippe@wikimedia.org> _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l _______________________________________________ Wikivoyage-l mailing list Wikivoyage-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikivoyage-l