Yes we need to figure out the images before launch.
I agree with Roland that we are not ready to transfer files to Commons until Tuesday.
First, not more than 10 people are sorting and tagging files on wts.wikivoyage. We work like hell, but we simply don't have enough manpower for this huge job. The work at the second repository, wikivoyage.org/shared, has not even started yet.
Second, details of image transfer are not yet settled. Stefan, MGA73, and Magog the Ogre offered their help and very nice scripts that could do things automatically. But every image on Commons requires a sound license information, and we have not even agreed on how to do it, see the discussion at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wikitravel_Shared_transfer_task_force#Linkbacks
Unless these problems are solved immediately, the launch of "renewed" Wikivoyage is going to be... well, not a catastrophe, but a fail.
-Alexander
On 03/11/2012 12:00, Roland Unger wrote:
I protest against the decision of the Wikimedia Foundation and its
representative Erik Möller to do not move the file repositories to the
servers of the Wikimedia Foundation. Most of the images in all of
the seven language branches will be vanished. The new start at the
Wikimedia Foundation will start with a catastrophe, and the authors
and readers will be frustrated. This would be a big victory to Internet
Brands over Wikivoyage.
We as the Wikivoyage association tried within the last days until
yesterday in a direct contact with Erik Möller to prevent this and to
establish the repositories maybe for one or two years to have enough
time to make the transfers.
With deep regret we have to state the we are not strong enough to
prevent this and therefore we had no success. As you know our
Wikivoyage admins and programmers were able to make a full
transfer from Wikitravel to Wikivoyage. And they made a really
good job. An now it's seems that a lot was for nothing.
Yours Roland
----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org>
Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012 3:20 am
Subject: [Wikivoyage-l] Updates: wikivoyage-old.org, domain transfer, etc.
To: Wikivoyage Mailing List <wikivoyage-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Hi folks,
here's the latest:
* wikivoyage-old.org now works to access the wikis hosted by WV e.V.
Those wikis will go into read-only mode post-migration (with the
probable exception of the media repositories for purposes such as
tagging) and this domain ensures that they'll remain accessible.
* We've signed the agreement with WikiVoyage e.V. to transfer the
domain (thanks Hans, Stefan and everyone else involved) and initiated
the transfer. Once our registrar inputs the auth code to confirm the
change of ownership, WMF will control wikivoyage.org. Initially we
will point back to the old sites.
Please let us know if you experience any odd issues in the next couple
of days.
* As mentioned before, we're not moving the file repos. Files have to
be manually transferred over. If you've not already been involved in
this process, now is a good time to get involved. Please see:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikitravel_Shared_transfer_task_force
and especially the talk page for the community process to transfer
files. This can continue well after the migration thanks to WV e.V.
continuing to host wikivoyage-old.org.
I know it's painful to start with a lot of red links, but I really
think this is the best approach to ensure that files are vetted,
uploaded either locally (under EDP) or to Commons, templates and
categories cleaned up, etc. I'd suggest running a sitenotice on all
wikis asking people to help with this, pointing to the Commons task
force.
* Our target date for the switch is Tuesday. I will send another
update should that date change. Just before the switch wikis will have
to go into read-only mode for at least a few hours to ensure that
up-to-date dumps can reliably be produced. Hans will help manage this
process.
It's getting exciting :-). Please bear with us as there are almost
certainly going to be glitches, frustrations and annoyances. We'll
work to fix and improve things as we go.
All best,
Erik
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