On sv; the guideline "Welcome, Wikipedians" includes the bullet points, but in an extended version. The guideline is linked from our standard welcome message. I do not know whether the other language versions features similar solutions.Our welcome message:We will probably change the template so we further emphasize the importance of the "Welcome..." guideline:Another possible solution, or complement, is to add a heads-up to our local SiteNotice.//Mattias2013/1/7 James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com>
I assume that these are already in the welcome templates?James
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mattias Sweden <riggwelter2012@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,We have had a little influx of Wikipedians on WV in swedish, which is nice. Already, different topics are under discussion, and some of them are way over my head... haha, which was expected. Some of the issues should really be covered on meta (such as issues about bot usage and global admin accounts) But, over the years and especially now, I have found that the most difficult thing there is, is how to make Wikipedians understand the ways in which WV differs from WP. Discussions about the need for sources, the amount of images in travel guides, internal wikilinks, why WV does not need massive history sections, etc, are simply hard to understand for the skilled Wikipedians. Personally, I think the two most important statements will have to be:* Wikivoyage is not Wikipedia and certainly not a travel encyclopedia (with reference to the guideline Welcome, Wikipedians)* Wikivoyage's travel guides are first and above all intended for printing and taking along on the journey, not to be looked up online while on the move.However, I am not sure how and where these statements should be emphasized to really make it "hit", so for now, it is and has to be a daily chore when we talk to fellow Wikipedians. The rules/policies/guidelines we have on WV, and many of them are from the very beginning of WT, are mostly clearly applicable.Greetings,Mattias
2012/12/26 James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com>
We should arrange a few talks on Wikivoyage for Wikimania.James
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Stefan Fussan <derfussi@gmail.com> wrote:
The Wikimania 2013 would be a good place to discuss it as well.
2012/12/26 Stefan Fussan <derfussi@gmail.com>
I agree Sandy Harris. This is one of our main tasks this year. Bringing some ideas together. I am going to put this topic on the WV -Lounge after. Maybe we ca draft a set of general rules...
2012/12/24 James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com>
I think it would be a good idea to develop something both on Wikipedia and on WVJames--
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com> wrote:
I just posted something at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Xiamen#Tourism_and_Shopping_Sections
I think it points to a more general problem. Given that in many
cases both WV and WP will have articles on the same place, do
we need to clarify what goes in which article, which things should
be in both, how the style will differ?
I know there are policies that cover much of this; I have read
most of them and remember some. My question is whether
we need anything more since we can expect a large influx of
editors soon and many will have WP experience but not WP
or even WT.
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