I can understand why Sandbox Server proposal failed with WMDE (to write a plan of activities for a future is in the community which creates whatever whenever impossible).
But I don't understand why the primary attempt to get it from WMF failed also. WMF has old servers which are given to other similar NGOes, WMF host other projects on their servers, so?
Regards, Juandev
On 11.05.2012 07:43, Juan de Vojníkov wrote:
I can understand why Sandbox Server proposal failed with WMDE (to write a plan of activities for a future is in the community which creates whatever whenever impossible).
I'm not aware that it failed, afaik the offer is still open. The requirement was not to have a detailed plan for the future, but to have regular reports of what's actually being done.
(For the record: this is no longer part of my responsibilities at WMDE (it's up to Sebastian now), and I havn't followed this closely, so maybe I missed something)
-- daniel
Hi Juan,
the Sandbox Server proposal is not failed but Gerald had some problems at work so he had no time to look at the Sandbox Server the last month but he up again.
My last information was that he is speaking with another admin that could help with setting up and maintain the server. Maybe he will report the current situation in the mailing list, too.
Best regards,
Jan
Von: wikiversity-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikiversity-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Juan de Vojníkov Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Mai 2012 07:43 An: Mailing list for Wikiversity Betreff: [Wikiversity-l] Why SS proposal failed with WMF?
I can understand why Sandbox Server proposal failed with WMDE (to write a plan of activities for a future is in the community which creates whatever whenever impossible).
But I don't understand why the primary attempt to get it from WMF failed also. WMF has old servers which are given to other similar NGOes, WMF host other projects on their servers, so?
Regards, Juandev
Hello,
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Jan Luca jan@jans-seite.de wrote:
the Sandbox Server proposal is not failed but Gerald had some problems at work so he had no time to look at the Sandbox Server the last month but he up again.****
My last information was that he is speaking with another admin that could help with setting up and maintain the server. Maybe he will report the current situation in the mailing list, too.
Well, I had hoped my next public communication on this would be the announcement of the birth of the box, since we've been "real close now" on a number of occasionis, but life sometimes gets in the way.
We still have the support of WM-DE in principal, and that is good. And we have two admins, and I've worked through all of the red-tape type of stuff for getting a server deployed (paperwork and whatnot).
The current holdup is initial payment -- WM-DE had pledged ongoing support, but there are some setup charges that need to be paid, and I won't have funds onhand to cover these for another week or two. I'm also not sure of how long the WM-DE money flow will take, and I want to ensure I'm not eating dirt while I have to wait. :)
I've also been a bit busy, concluding one project and firing up a new one, and adjusting to the new place I'm hanging my hat.
I was originally hoping to have it open for business by April sometime, but my optimistic prediction is now sometime in May. I've contacted a few previous people who were interested in the Sandbox project, but I haven't got to touch base with everyone.
I would say we should start discussing projects, 'cause I'd like to get a few going out of the gate. All I do ask is you start another thread though.
I'd be happy to answer any further questions, though.
Thanks, Gerald
To my knowledge, the WMF was not officially asked to provide the box (or anything) for this. Given that, I don't think it's fair to say that the proposal failed with WMF.
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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Juan de Vojníkov <juandevojnikov@gmail.com
wrote:
I can understand why Sandbox Server proposal failed with WMDE (to write a plan of activities for a future is in the community which creates whatever whenever impossible).
But I don't understand why the primary attempt to get it from WMF failed also. WMF has old servers which are given to other similar NGOes, WMF host other projects on their servers, so?
Regards, Juandev
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Hi,
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Philippe Beaudette philippe@wikimedia.orgwrote:
To my knowledge, the WMF was not officially asked to provide the box (or anything) for this. Given that, I don't think it's fair to say that the proposal failed with WMF.
Actually, at the start, we did ask the WMF, and we were pointed to the toolserver. I requested an account, found out the rules, and the sandbox server group at the time decided that the toolserver didn't fulfill what we were looking for.
We then asked a number of times for a spare or unallocated server, or even an older/decommissioned server. After asking, waiting, and asking again, we were given the impression that this would never be something the WMF would be willing to assist with directly.
If anything has changed in this regard, it would be an interesting development, and perhaps something worth pursuing in the long term.
Thanks, Gerald
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