Well, the number of pages is also a question. Now it looks like that it is enough for Foundation to look on the quality and/or vitality of the project. Well there is not other way how to evaluate it.<br><br>But according my opinion it doesnt say nothing about Wikiversity. It is a good measure of succes for wp (no. of articles), wikt (no. of words), wb (no. of pages of a textbook). But for wv number of educational resources? How educational resource is defined? Lets have a look on Bloom Clock, it can cover 20% of total article count. I.e. there are 6 thousand pages on the project and 2 thousand are botanical items. So thats why number of pages is not good enough to evaluate wv.<br>
<br>And well, thanks to Philippe Beaudette &quot;after many core contributors left&quot; is a better statement.<br><br><br>Regards,<br>Juan de V.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/10 Philippe Beaudette <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pbeaudette@wikimedia.org">pbeaudette@wikimedia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<br></div><div>Perhaps what Juan meant was &quot;after some core contributors left&quot;, or something, but I think we should look seriously at the numbers when seeing statements like that.</div><div><br></div><div>As to whether the Foundation cares... again, I don&#39;t want to pick a fight, but... well, I&#39;m reading, and I answered.  :)</div>
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</div></div></span></div></span> </div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On Aug 9, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Juan de Vojníkov wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br><br>also a comment from me. After exodus of Wikiversity participants from the WMF movement I lost the interest. There seem to be also a very small support from WMF (as I seen some presentations on Wikimania). <br>
<br> There were founded also some forks, where people are not frighten from the founder and were the technical development goes faster being not burdened by bureaucracy and technical strategy, which is still implementing Wikipedia tools to other non-Wikipedia projects.<br>
 <br>And of course another reason is time. Now I work on Czech Wikiversity and this month came back to English Wikiversity were I found a mess, a big mess. There are hundreds of students and teachers from universities and other schools from hole around the world, but seems to me that a very little number of people patrolling RC.<br>
 <br>Regards,<br>Juan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/8/9 Gerald A <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:geraldablists@gmail.com" target="_blank">geraldablists@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
 Hi All,<div><br></div><div>After sitting on the sidelines for a couple months, it&#39;s time to take this off the backburner.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m quite disappointed that there seem to be no local to me orgs that want to help out with this.</div>
 <div><br></div><div>They were either out of our budget or weren&#39;t willing to host such a small endeavour, despite it being a good cause.</div><div><br></div><div>So, off with their heads, onwards and upwards. We&#39;ll have plenty of choice without a &quot;local to me&quot; restriction, which</div>
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