On 22.1.2011, at 17.52, Joe Corneli wrote:
> At the moment, I don't see a particular reason for Wikiversity to
> rebuild P2PU infrastructure from scratch, when it could instead be
> reused to do something cool more quickly and then tweaked with
> considerable future promise.
I do not see the "infrastructure" to be here a great challenge.
Especially with the liquid threads extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads
) the infrastructure is already in there.
> I know several P2PU courses are using
> Wikiversity as a place to host some of their content, and perhaps good
> things would come from a suitable bidirectional channel :)
Collaborating with the P2PU and all the other open education projects
is extremely important. When the movement is growing (as I hope)
different approaches with a similar kind of objectives will benefit all.
> As for the computer-based training idea: not likely to go from 0 to
> 8000BPS overnight. Does Wikiversity have a roadmap? If CBT was in
> the roadmap, it might actually happen ;).
I agree. I am actually proposing this for the community. If it (we)
will find it as a good idea writing a road map is a good idea. The
emphasis on CBT and self-study (with some software intelligence) would
make the role of Wikiversity and Wikibooks more clear — an issue
discussed since the day one.
> One thing both P2PU and PlanetMath have in common is that they are not
> wikis, at least not in the traditional sense, though both have wiki
> aspects. I've often asked myself what PlanetMath's role is in the
> "wiki world" of wikimedia. Wikiversity could also ask what its role
> is in the broader and often non-wiki, or not exclusively wiki, world
> of online educational communities.
If we agree, as we probably should, the definition of a wiki by
Wikipedia(* at least P2PU is not a wiki. The P2PU is great, but it
definitely much closer community than the Wikiversity.
Wikiversity community should definitely think what is its role in the
world of online educational communities and services. Learning from
each other without Not Invented Here -syndrome would be great, too. If
Wikieducator, P2PU, PlanetMath or LeMill (http://lemill.net/) does
something better, the Wikiversity community should do the same. This
is what P2PU is also doing. Actually many of their practices were
invited in Wikiversity (and some other sites) and they just took them
and made them better. That is good!
Best regards,
- Teemu
*)A wiki is a website that allows the creation and editing of any
number of interlinked web pages via a web browser using a simplified
markup language or a WYSIWYG text editor
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Teemu Leinonen
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+358 50 351 6796
Media Lab
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Aalto University
School of Art and Design
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