On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 05:18:39PM +0000, Sam Korn wrote: You mean like this? :-) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter/Language_Specification People can test the language here if they want (you do need a Wikicompany account): http://wikicompany.org/wiki?title=Wikicompany:Test4 Sure there are performance, security and editorial-complexity considerations when deploying these kind of extensions, but some things are just too funky too ignore. Jama Poulsen

On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:57:59PM +0000, Sam Korn wrote: I did not create this extension User:Frantik did. One could also say that the current Wiki syntax is too simple for many editors. Sure its much more complex than the 'standard' Wiki syntax, but I do see a need for more dynamic page constructions and displays, and this provides a very interesting building block for that. I see this project as a natural progression of Wiki syntax. You can ignore this development for some time, but as the Wiki editing model grows in popularity, more people will want these more expressive Wiki editing options (like a more advanced templating language, semantical annotations, etc.). Jama Poulsen

"Sam Korn" <smoddy(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cbffa3750601211232l4145f438le5ea3d2ef072f74f@mail.gmail.com... On 1/21/06, Jama Poulsen <jama(a)debianlinux.net> wrote: [snip] This is known as "template forking" and is regarded as evil. It generally results in 17 different variants of a given template, with minor differences between them, forcing an editor to work much harder to discern which variant is appropriate for a given occasion. Take for example the classic {{book reference}}. The simplest possible instance is just the title of the book. This can later be embellished with the name of the author, possibly with a link to an appropriate article. Later additions can include the publisher and ISBN, to distinguish between different editions and to enable a reader to find an actual copy. If you fork this template (and this was actually done before the advent of condition "tricksiness"), you have to use a different template every time you incrementally improve the accuracy of your citation. Your choice can even be affected by the order in which your embellishments are added! Since accurate citation of sources is a key requirement for a good Wikipedia article, making this any harder than necessary is not good. HTH HAND -- Phil [[en:User:Phil Boswell]]

On Monday 23 January 2006 09:51, Phil Boswell wrote: This is exactly the example I wanted to put forward. I try to cite sources whenever I can, but I haven't used appropriate templates because of this (there exist/have existed multiple book reference templates: with page number, without page number, with ISBN, without ISBN...). With one template, it is much easier and I will likely use it now.

"Sam Korn" <smoddy(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:cbffa3750601210918q71a7e501k3499701e319a0a52@mail.gmail.com Yes please remove the CSS trick from the following templates on :en Infobox President Infobox Governor Infobox Person Infobox Senator and a few hundred others. You can start at [[:Category:Infobox templates]]. The hack conditionals have been beaten with big sticks and they are still alive. Who wonders? Adrian