Are there statistics about what versions of PHP exist in the wild among MediaWiki users or users of other large PHP applications (Drupal, WordPress, etc.)?

On 2014-10-23 7:55 PM, MZMcBride wrote: https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/PHP_Versions https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/PHP_Versions/non-wmf ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

On 10/24/14, Daniel Friesen <daniel(a)nadir-seen-fire.com> wrote: Specifically https://wikiapiary.com/w/index.php?title=Special:SearchByProperty&offse… specificly suggests there's currently about 489 such wikis that this change could potentially affect (Unclear how many of those are active or how many of those use even remotely modern versions of MW. My SMW-fu is not strong enough to figure out how to query that) --bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Hi, As part of the librarization project[1], we are planning on taking the CSSJanus library that is currently in includes/lib/ and bringing it in with composer. However, it requires PHP >=5.3.3 in its composer.json[2]. Krinkle has stated[3] that is due to the fact that it has only been tested on 5.3.3 and higher, and it's also what travis-ci provides. After doing some research[4], it appears that we would be dropping support for Ubuntu 10.04LTS, which has security support until April 2015. MediaWiki 1.25.0 is expected to be released in May 2015. Does anyone have any objections to dropping 5.3.2 support? I've uploaded [5] that actually increments the required version number.

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:12 AM, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org wrote: > On 23 October 2014 18:39, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > As part of the librarization project[1], we are planning on taking the > > CSSJanus library that is currently in includes/lib/ and bringing it in > > with composer. However, it requires PHP >=5.3.3 in its composer.json[2]. > > Krinkle has stated[3] that is due to the fact that it has only been > > tested on 5.3.3 and higher, and it's also what travis-ci provides. > > > After doing some research[4], it appears that we would be dropping > > support for Ubuntu 10.04LTS, which has security support until April > > 2015. MediaWiki 1.25.0 is expected to be released in May 2015. > > > Does anyone have any objections to dropping 5.3.2 support? I've uploaded > > [5] that actually increments the required version number. > > ​I understood that the vague plan was to switch over to 5.4.x requirement, > and that we'd only waited because Wikimedia wasn't ready yet. Has this > changed? I know a number of people have talked about wanting to use PHP > traits. Yes, but that's longer term.

This minor bump still in the 5.3.x branch I think we can do immediately.

On 24 Oct 2014, at 17:31, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > ​How much longer? 1.25 is May 2015; Wikimedia's ZAP -> HAT migration is > nominally to be finished within a month…​

On 10/27/2014 03:05 PM, Krinkle wrote: > > On 24 Oct 2014, at 17:31, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org>

I think we're now using HHVM most places in production (which supports

Are those the only ones running neither HHVM nor PHP 5.4? What do we have to do to upgrade them? Once the WMF cluster is 5.4-safe, we can then think about when to change

This has caused some issues, e.g.

There's a related bug, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T32092

Matt Flaschen